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IMO the 9.3 doesn't have nostalgia IN the USA.

OTOH I think the 35 W certainly does.

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Originally Posted by smallfry
This is a great thread for 35 Whelen whiners to chime in with their grievances about how it "should be more popular", or "why didn't it ever..." , or "why do people like the 9.3x62 over the 35?".


The 9.3x62 really has been coming on of late!

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Originally Posted by moosemike
Originally Posted by smallfry
This is a great thread for 35 Whelen whiners to chime in with their grievances about how it "should be more popular", or "why didn't it ever..." , or "why do people like the 9.3x62 over the 35?".


The 9.3x62 really has been coming on of late!


It's been so underrated for soooo many years. grin

Really the whole "overrated" and "underrated" has always been a bit funny to me. Sort of like when someone says "It kills all out of proportion to its size(power)" which really is only pointing to the authors lack of experance. Conversely, no one seems to say it kills "less than its proportionate size" which is often more the case grin

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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Not "overrated" , i.e. given more credit or popularity than they deserve, not "underrated", i.e. given less credit or popularity than they deserve, but "rated" - they are given enough credit and are as popular as they should be.


.375 H&H
.30-06
.270 (gay jokes notwithstanding)


Hmm, might be a short thread... wink


Looking at your rated list, it appears you have the trifecta to cover all big game hunting. Here's the but, if it were my list I would bridge the gap by eliminating the 30-06 and replace with the 300 Win. Mag. The 375 and 270 would anchor the ends. Probably just offended 90% of the fire replacing the 06.

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Originally Posted by lynntelk

Looking at your rated list, it appears you have the trifecta to cover all big game hunting. Here's the but, if it were my list I would bridge the gap

by eliminating the 30-06 and

replace with the 300 Win. Mag. The 375 and 270 would anchor the ends. Probably just offended 90% of the fire replacing the 06.


I am NOT offended..

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I am. At some point between the .30 carbine and the .30-378 Weatherby you have enough powder propelling the bullet. For me that is the .30-06.

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Yep. Did it by the second post. Win.

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Originally Posted by moosemike
I am. At some point between the .30 carbine and the .30-378 Weatherby you have enough powder propelling the bullet. For me that is the .30-06.


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Originally Posted by tedthorn
You have forgotten the top seller in the world

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? Big Game ? Cartridge ?

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Props to JII for an interesting thread. I'll throw some Scandinavia on and vote for the 6.5 x 55.


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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Not "overrated" , i.e. given more credit or popularity than they deserve, not "underrated", i.e. given less credit or popularity than they deserve, but "rated" - they are given enough credit and are as popular as they should be.


.375 H&H
.30-06
.270 (gay jokes notwithstanding)


Hmm, might be a short thread... wink


Another interesting thread might be "Is there anyone out there in Loonyland that does not own a rifle in one of these calibers?"


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My "rated" trifecta would be:

22-250
270
375 H&H

Dat's it... but I don't need no stinking trifecta.


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Where in blazes is the 7x57? It can cover all bases from gophers to elleyfaints!

Agree on the .30-30 as I load my '06 to mimic it's ballistics.


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Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by tedthorn
You have forgotten the top seller in the world

22LR


? Big Game ? Cartridge ?

Jerry


Yep....poking fun at the 22-250 "Big Game" post

I have a spoon laying around here somewhere


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Originally Posted by tedthorn
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You have forgotten the top seller in the world

22LR


? Big Game ? Cartridge ?

Jerry


Yep....poking fun at the 22-250 "Big Game" post

I have a spoon laying around here somewhere

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Fine by me.

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I got curious about what cartridges might “rate” that I’ve either personally used, or have been used by companions I’ve been standing next to. The most frequent companion has been my wife Eileen, where I’ve had not only a personal interest because of our relationship but because the meat would end up in our freezers, and I’d have to help haul the animal home. (She’s the one who uses the 9.3x72R, in a nifty little German combination gun.) Oh, and usually—but not always—I handloaded her ammo. I handloaded some of the other ammo as well, one example the .22 Savage High Power, loaded for a friend who owned one but didn’t handload.

The animals are arbitrarily divided into two weight classes, which is roughly along the deer/caribou divide. I’ve only killed a dozen caribou, but have probably seen at least that many more taken, and they don’t appear to be harder to kill than deer, and probably not as tough as a rutting whitetail buck. But I did feel there should be some weight division.

The cartridges I haven’t used personally but have seen in action are denoted by an asterisk. If the cartridge is followed by an X, that means extended experience, enough to get a real feel for what the cartridge does, and perhaps by observing others use it as well. I might also note that some of the cartridges are so close to each other in ballistics that even though my experience with each individual round isn’t extensive, add them all together and it is. A good example might be the 6.5x57R, 6.5 Creedmoor and .260 Remington, which all have very similar ballistics to the 6.5x55. The same could probably be said of the .250 Savage and .257 Roberts, or the .300 Magnums. I would also congratulate anybody who can perceive any difference in field performance between the .30-40 Krag, .300 Savage, .303 British and .308 Winchester.

The most consistent observations have been that any cartridge works pretty darn well if its bullets are put in the right place, and bullet “failure” hasn’t been nearly as frequent as many hunters report.

All these cartridges “rate” just where they should in terms of popularity, at least to me.

Deer-sized animals (up to 350 pounds):
.22 Rimfire Magnum*
.22 Hornet
.223 Remington
.22-250 (X)
.220 Swift (X)
.22 Savage High Power*
.243 Winchester (X)
.240 Weatherby (X)
.250-3000 Savage
.257 Roberts (X)
.257 Roberts Ackley Improved (X)
.25-06 (X)
.257 Weatherby Magnum (X)
6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer
6.5x57R
6.5 Creedmoor
.260 Remington
6.5x55 (X)
6.5/.284*
6.5-06
.264 Winchester Magnum (X)
6.8 SPC
.270 Winchester (X)
.270 Weatherby Magnum
7mm-08
7x57 (X)
.280 Remington (X)
.280 Remington Ackley Improved
7mm SAUM (X)
7mm Remington Magnum (X)
7mm STW
.30-30 WCF (X)
.30-40 Krag
.300 Savage
.308 Winchester (X)
.30-06 (X)
.300 WSM (X)
.300 H&H Magnum
.300 Winchester Magnum (X)
.303 British
8x57 Mauser
.325 WSM*
.338 Federal
.338-06
.338 WSM*
.338 Winchester Magnum (X)
.35 Remington
.358 Winchester (X)
.35 Whelen
9.3x72R*
9.3 B-S (X)
9.3x62 Mauser (X)
.375 H&H (X)
.416 WSM
.45-70 (X)
.458 Lott
.50-110 WCF
20 gauge
12 gauge

Animals from 350-1500 pounds:
.22-250*
.257 Roberts*
.257 Weatherby Magnum
.270 Winchester (X)
.270 WSM (X)
7x57 (X)
7mm Remington SAUM (X)
7mm Weatherby Magnum
.308 Winchester (X)
.30-06 (X)
.300 Winchester Magnum (X)
.300 Weatherby Magnum
.300 Remington Ultra Magnum
.325 WSM*
.338 Winchester Magnum
.358 Winchester*
9.3 B-S (X)
9.3x62 Mauser (X)
9.3 Sisk (8mm Rem. Magnum necked up)*
.375 H&H (X)
.375 Ruger*
.416 Rigby (X)
.416 Remington Magnum*
.458 Lott*
.50-110 WCF*
12 gauge


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John, I gotta ask how the 350 - 1500 lb animal and the 12 gauge played out smile


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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Not "overrated" , i.e. given more credit or popularity than they deserve, not "underrated", i.e. given less credit or popularity than they deserve, but "rated" - they are given enough credit and are as popular as they should be.


.375 H&H
.30-06
.270 (gay jokes notwithstanding)


Hmm, might be a short thread... wink


Mine will always be,

.416 Rem
.30-06
.243

and if it were legal in all places I hunt, I'd replace the 243 w/,

5.56 NATO

and if looking for one to replace both 416 and 30-06,

9.3x62

Regardless center fire rifle, rimfire will always be,

22 long rifle.


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