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What do these places pay?

If you want to hire non pot smokers, you have to offer a non pot smoker wage.

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Damn shame , An American worker has to pass a drug test to get hired. A fuggin illegal messican don't have to pass a drug test or even a legal to work in the USA test.

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Hell,....you can't hire prison labor for minimum wage these days.

,..bust your ass unloading trucks for 3 hours and somebody hands you a 20 dollar bill. After taxes you got enough left over to buy two hamburgers and a milkshake.

,...and people are hollerin' about, "Ya just cain't get good help these days!"

I'd be ridin' the grub line too.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
What do these places pay?

If you want to hire non pot smokers, you have to offer a non pot smoker wage.


Far from true. Working offshore oil patch, we tested regularly and after all of the education and the fact that "You will be tested" was harped on, we still lost over 20% of those "well paid workers". One in five is bad odds to draw to.

Some who saw the test coming immediately stated "they had a problem and needed help", so couldn't fire them. Most who went through rehab and were later tested failed and were dismissed.

Money and salary ain't the issue at all.


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It might help if drug tests would tell if MJ users are high or not.

I have had several pot smokers under me that were good help, unless they got high, then they were worthless and should have been fired.

If they smoked it yesterday, or a few days ago, no problem.
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You think you have it tough. I drove truck to Canada and back for over six years. It was pretty easy in the summer, less so in the winter but still good money and no competition for my job. It seems finding someone who can pass a alcohol and drug test with testing any time and any day by the company, any LEO, and DOT was hard but when you add no felony record and no child support there were damned few who could qualify.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Bristoe
What do these places pay?

If you want to hire non pot smokers, you have to offer a non pot smoker wage.


Far from true. Working offshore oil patch, we tested regularly .


Stick somebody on an offshore oil rig for months on end,..and you expect them not to get a buzz?

A man can only sit there watching Andy Griffith reruns for so long,...then something's got to give.

You don't want 'em to get a buzz,...you better keep a helicopter train running between the place and a whorehouse.

The monotony will be broken one way or the other.

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Like the monotony you spew? Pass me the doobie!


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Like the monotony you spew? Pass me the doobie!


Ain't nobody twistin' your puckered up old fuggin' arm to read it,...so piss off.

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Bristoe, What's wrong with alcohol during off-duty hours?


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Like the monotony you spew? Pass me the doobie!


Ain't nobody twistin' your puckered up old fuggin' arm to read it,...so piss off.


Nor yours to reply. Pissonya.


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Originally Posted by BarryC
Bristoe, What's wrong with alcohol during off-duty hours?


I'm not here to say.

But I've had enough experience with employers who want people to do backflips for nothing.

Pay your people or shut da fug up is all I've got to say about it.

Labor is like everything else,....you get what ya pay for.

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You old guys sure your prostates will cooperate when all the "piss on ya" talk comes to action?


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Originally Posted by BarryC
Bristoe, What's wrong with alcohol during off-duty hours?


Barry this same question (and it's a good one) was asked by most all who failed their drug test as they were working (mostly) one week offshore and one week at home, some were 2/2.

Figured what they did on their offtime was their business. But,,,it wasn't just theirs, by the rules. Federal rules are actually more lax than most company rules.

We lost some really talented, hard working folks via drug tests.


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Toot, are they not allowed to drink at all, at any time while aboard a rig?


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Originally Posted by BarryC
Toot, are they not allowed to drink at all, at any time while aboard a rig?


If you're on a rig and something goes down you can go from off duty to on in an instant. BAC better be zero.

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Makes sense.


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Not at all. Personnel has to declare all medicines including Nyquil, etc. We had multiple random checks at the offshore locations.

The only person I saw beat his drug test failure had a valid concern over the 'chain of custody documentation' of his piss sample. The medic was fired for that lapse and he passed his subsequent test having had time to dry out.

Most recreational users clearly think they are doing no wrong while on their personal time. It's a Catch 22 of sorts.


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