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Lost here, anybody have a clue as to whether or not this system has any provision for INTERNAL adjustment, or am I stuck with modifying the "turret Mounts ?" A buddy got the setup from Sarco 3 -4 year ago, no brochure or SFA. I' helped him today, getting the mounts half azz leveled, and bore sighting for windage than became a snap,....dammit, no shooting today, the scope is needing to come up in the front,(doable, at the threshold of some weird mods),...or down at it's back, which don't look promising at all.
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The rectangular piece .... This gizmo seems to... A.) Focus the scope ????? B.) damn sure MOVES the vert and horiz. very Germanic three point reticle when you start fooling with it. As far as I can see, the little "lock screw laying horizontally behind the elevation wheel looks to be simply for locking things down , once dialed in. 1000 Meters ?,....yeah, ...sure. Okay Guys and Gals, I'm sure that one of you will have a handle on this beast, I sure as hell don't. GTC
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GTC, you come up with the coolest schit...
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Greg,
Appears to be a wonder from another time to me. I'd vote for shims, something I've done for more than a few sights over the years. Have a small stock of brass ranging from .003" upward, mostly in increments of .005". Source was the local hobby store for my stash, might find some in a craft store, not certain of that.
The .003" stuff is about as rigid as aluminum foil, which might be another source to consider. It all cuts easy with good scissors.
I am..........disturbed.
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Aha, attack of the optics forum techno-weenies
If either one of you NASA types can send me over a "shim" at LEAST 1/4 inch thick, I'd be eternally grateful.
GTC
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Any and all provision for wind is up to the shooter, from what I can see,....all the windage hoo-ya's in the rear mount itself.
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Take it out & shoot it...at range.
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WAY way out Sean, at least that much.... GTC
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Holy crap.
All I can figure is someone slapped on mounts that aren't kosher to the rifle.
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Looks like the elevation is in the scope, and the windage is in the rear mount.
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Take it out & shoot it...at range. I'm BORESIGHTING the rifle on fence posts, power poles, and transformers that I've performed the same exercise with at least a coupla' hundred times. I don't need to "TRY" chit to "see where it's hitting", I KNOW. where it's going to hit, at this time,.... GTC
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Looks like the elevation is in the scope, and the windage is in the rear mount. Exactomente, Gracias ! GTC
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Looks like the elevation is in the scope, and the windage is in the rear mount. Exactomente, Gracias ! GTC The problem is the mounts are so FUBAR as to render the elevation in the scope useless. Sorry, GTC, but someone had to state the obvious.
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The way it was originally done was by filing the rear mount to correct elevation. You won't find shims on actual wartime sniper 98k's.
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MAYBE, JUST MAYBE:
- You loosen the two set screws on the top.
- Then, you rotate either the entire circle, or the "handle" until you've zeroed elev @ 100m.
- The reticle will probably not remain centered, because they move for elevation changes, but that's OK.
- retighten the two set screws on top.
- When you're "on" @ 100m, loosen the set screw and set the ranging dial to the proper spot, then retighten the set screw on the side.
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MAYBE, JUST MAYBE:
- You loosen the two set screws on the top.
- Then, you rotate either the entire circle, or the "handle" until you've zeroed elev @ 100m.
- The reticle will probably not remain centered, because they move for elevation changes, but that's OK.
- retighten the two set screws on top.
- When you're "on" @ 100m, loosen the set screw and set the ranging dial to the proper spot, then retighten the set screw on the side.
MAYBE The mounts do INDEED need a little more hand fitting / bedding, and the lower rings will damn sure need lapping,....BUT I do think that something along the order of what you're suggesting is possible,..... Danke ! GTC
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Are those peep through holes under the scope? How do they align with point of impact?
Interesting puzzle you have there. Shims are not the answer.
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