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I just JB Welded it on the end. How many shots you think it'll last?
Laffin.... Never shoot your gun so much it gets hot enough to melt the tactical epoxy off it. That would be bad mmkay...
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Been watching this thread to see where folks landed on the suppressor thing. I'm not a fan of a can attached to the end of my barrel - and I've not been persuaded by any of the arguments put forth in this thread. I've handled a couple of rifles with cans and find the balance is wrecked. They feel weird to me - and look the same. I wouldn't put a suppressor on a Montana if you paid me. If that floats your boat, so be it, we can agree to disagree. I think Bobin stated attaching a can is the best way to ruin a perfect mountain rifle - I agree 100%. I also agree with Brad that the previous version of the Montana is superior to the current threaded model. I hate the knurled nut. Anyone have a junker older style in 30-06 they want get rid of?
I've come back to Montana's after having one of the first Montana's in 300 WSM. It was a bit too much in a magnum chambering. After climbing a few mountains, killing a few elk, and determining they aren't bullet proof, I've moved to smaller cartridges in light rifles that didn't need recoil enhancements. A 308, 270, 30-06 with Talley lightweights and a reasonable scope in a Kimber Montana is pretty close to the perfect mountain rifle. I'll probably just suffer through my Montana 270 this fall. I might even be able to shoot it from all field positions without fear of scope eye - it might even kill an elk or two <G>
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Have you shot a suppressed rifle? Just curious.
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Have you shot a suppressed rifle? Just curious. This question isn't directed towards me but I have used a suppressor or 2 Bolt gun in South Africa and M4 here in the states. I like a suppressor but knowing what they cost elsewhere ($200) I can't see myself dropping the money it takes to own one here in the states. I would love to see the laws change.
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20+ oz scopes and suppressors on a rifle designed for hunts other than going for a small walk out of the back 40. Funny as [bleep].
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Can't ever see myself using a suppressor. To my eye they are ungainly and ruin the lines of a sporting rifle. Then there's the additional weight and length. Kind of like using a copper bore cleaner, have been blasting away with all kind of guns for the last 55+ years and the thought of using anything but Hoppe's and CLR to clean and protect a barrel has never crossed my mind. Guess I'm old school....
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20+ oz scopes and suppressors on a rifle designed for hunts other than going for a small walk out of the back 40. Funny as [bleep]. Kinda thinking the same things.....not sure what to make of it all.
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20-oz scope I totally get IF a guy is dialing. Trying to keep an open mind, but I agree, a can on a Kimber seems wonky from here in fuddy-duddy-ville!
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20+ oz scopes and suppressors on a rifle designed for hunts other than going for a small walk out of the back 40. Funny as [bleep]. Gun pictured above... with the suppressor.... weighs under 8lbs all up, and is the same length as a LA Rem. 700 with a 24" barrel.... Can envy is a stinky cologne....
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20-oz scope I totally get IF a guy is dialing. Trying to keep an open mind, but I agree, a can on a Kimber seems wonky from here is fuddy-ville! Much easier to understand.... when you're not a fhugkin' retard....
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I understand the appeal, I think. But it looks wonky as HELL and takes some getting used to fo' sho.
The CENTER will hold.
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FÜCK PUTIN!
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Yeah man.... it's ALL about the looks!
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Once again.... if you don't own a can.... You shouldn't miss the opportunity to STFU...
LOOKS.... should be the least of your concern. PERFORMANCE is where it's at....
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it's falling on deaf ears, Dog......pun
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20+ oz scopes and suppressors on a rifle designed for hunts other than going for a small walk out of the back 40. Funny as [bleep]. True dat.
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Once again.... if you don't own a can.... You shouldn't miss the opportunity to STFU...
LOOKS.... should be the least of your concern. PERFORMANCE is where it's at.... I hear you, I do. Just getting used to the look. Beer can on a twig. Any changes to accuracy?
The CENTER will hold.
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Every rifle I've put a can on got MORE accurate.... and easier to shoot.
You should try pulling your head out of your ass... and I bet stuff "looks" way better...
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Got a question about the can. I'm sure I've worn out the story about my sniper hunting acquaintance and the landowner where these sniper dudes shoot prarie dogs up in the TX Panhandle. Anyway, I shot his Tikka T3 Tactical rifle a couple of months ago, a .308 w/Bushy HDMR wearing a can. It sounded like a .22 going off with virtually zero recoil. Now I wasn't shooting very far at all, mostly just screwing around with a Horus reticle (first I've ever seen), and the suppressor.
Question: I'm assuming this was regular hunting ammo....is this the norm for it to be so noiseless? I was under the impression only subsonic ammo was this quiet when shooting through a can.
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Every rifle I've put a can on got MORE accurate.... and easier to shoot.
You should try pulling your head out of your ass... and I bet stuff "looks" way better... What are the physics behind better accuracy?
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Every rifle I've put a can on got MORE accurate.... and easier to shoot.
You should try pulling your head out of your ass... and I bet stuff "looks" way better... What are the physics behind better accuracy? Just a couple of SWAG's, but I'd assume that reduced muzzle blast causes less aerodynamic upset on the base of the bullet as it exits, which means it achieves gyroscopic stability quicker and easier. I'd also think that the dead weight on the end of the barrel acts as a harmonic buffer, decreasing the amplitude of the sine wave running up and down the barrel at the shot, so tuning your load to be in a node would be easier and less critical.
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