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Harrrumph. The deer don't care WHAT you shoot them with.


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Ok,ok,ok, let me rephrase it!

The 270 is not capable of what more modern rounds such as the 257 weatherby are capable of smile

I also do like to handicap the 270 just a little. There's nothing wrong with that however because my 270 was handicapping me wanting to shoot to 700 yds. The 270 started this pissing match with me and happily my 6.5 swede came along and kicked my 270 ass all over the 700 yd line.

Though my 270 has now become my new red headed step child I do plan on keeping it around because red is great at shooting elk at 300 yds or less. Or possibly to 400 since that WAS done in the 80s. grin

Meanwhile Eastern Montana lope,and Whitetail are scared silly at the thought of the new rockstar (6.5 swede)that'll be hitting a town near you this fall


Stay Tuned grin





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700 Yards ????? Are you in a wheelchair ?

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700 Yards ????? Are you in a wheelchair ?


I used to be when I was GAY!

Not handicapped anymore!

Thanks for asking laugh


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The Swede has been doing it since 1895,
the 270s just an overbore pimply powder burning wannabe !



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Originally Posted by Stevil
The Swede has been doing it since 1895,
the 270s just an overbore pimply powder burning wannabe !


You're a funny guy! LOL!

How many 270's have you shot the barrels out of? 6,5x55's?

I mean....just to show you know what you're talking about. Right? wink





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Bobin,

The 270 is probably still my all time favorite. grin

In no way however am I regretting the route I'm taking with this new 6.5 swede.

I'll likely be hunting with the both for many years to come. After this fall I'll have a much better idea about my new rifle and how it does when used on game but I have a feeling I'll be pleased.

Today a slight drop in powder charge and some seating depth changes got me a 3.14" 3 shot group at 600 yds. I'll give the rifle a good cleaning and tommarro we'll stretch it out to 700 grin

I am more than confident a 270 set up with the correct twist would certainly get it done and maybe even more. smile



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Originally Posted by BobinNH
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nuthin like facts Shod,

Ive had 270's and the blasty things do the Job but the Swede just does it a bit easy both on the ears and the shoulder. Throw in the nice taper on the case n extraction and feeding gives it the edge of the 270.


C'mon....seriously? smile

The 270 tapers nicely and feeds like butter from Mausers and M70's and about anything else and has similar "taper" for extraction purposes. There is no 6.5 "advantage" there.


As to everyone getting weak in the knees over "efficiency" , I always looked back over my shoulder at the "efficiency" mavens and their creations. The flaw was always the more "efficient" I got, the slower I was going,expressed as percentages, like this unto itself was some kind of virtue that I didn't give a hang about in a hunting cartridge.

Followed to its illogical conclusions, "efficiency" saved me powder, which I didn't give a hang about, but cost me velocity,and I cared about that (within reason). Give me the case with the powder capacity to deliver the velocity.

The recoil of a 270 Winchester is trifling. It wasn't designed by some "committee" to be a military round; it was designed to kill animals.

It has wiped the floor with its competitors here and elsewhere....even in Africa.How'd that happen? confused


Amen buddy! It's gotten it done in any camp I've been in.

This big bruiser took about 13 points to get a tag. The hunter didn't mind his 270 with 130 Partitions at 420 yards.

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Amen, Scotty.

Mark Twain said something about the rumors of his demise being premature. If only the .270 could speak for itself---oh, wait...it CAN and it DOES.


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Hey bobin ive had 3 x 6.5x55s 2 x 260s and 2 x 270s. Ive shot probably a 500 or 600 critters with em. I know what works and what doesnt

The 6.5 Swede just does it in my books, none of the 270 fuss.

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Originally Posted by Stevil
Hey bobin ive had 3 x 6.5x55s 2 x 260s and 2 x 270s. Ive shot probably a 500 or 600 critters with em. I know what works and what doesnt

The 6.5 Swede just does it in my books, none of the 270 fuss.



Stevil,

I'm sure you found the same thing anyone who's shot several hundred critters finds.

Any reasonable cartridge will kill em, some just do it with less powder, recoil, and muzzle blast!

I've shot 1000s of rounds through my current 270

I'm almost to 50 with my 6.5 Swede and it's a large enouph sample I can reasonably conclude it is noticeably softer and quieter. In fact it's a damn nice shooting rifle in comparison.

I've not shot any critters with the 6.5 yet but I'll take your word on its effectiveness. grin







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Originally Posted by Rug3
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If you seriously want to sell the 6.5X55 send me a PM with info.

If you decide to sell a Sweede let me know.
Jim


I'll tell you what !! I am considering REAMING this 6.5x55 into a

6.5-06. My Win 70 is a standard length action w/a standard length magazine. It ought to make a dandy hunting cartridge.

Rug - I promise that if I decide to sell the Swede I'll get in touch.


Right now I'm really in the mood to REAM it out. (that's political correct language). KWIM ?

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Originally Posted by Stevil
Hey bobin ive had 3 x 6.5x55s 2 x 260s and 2 x 270s. Ive shot probably a 500 or 600 critters with em. I know what works and what doesnt

The 6.5 Swede just does it in my books, none of the 270 fuss.


Stevil: Are you telling me the 270 does not work? Doesn't kill/ How is it so different?

2 270's? That's a good start. So lie I guessed you haven't really burnt any out have you?

What does "none of the 270 fuss" mean? Bullets bounce off? Animals shrug off hits and you lose them as they wander off? No wound channels? Don't fall down after a lung hit?

Do you load a 6.5 with something other than powder and bullets? Is that part of the "fuss"?

What is it?

Can you see a visible difference on impact,damage, etc?

The 6.5 breaks heavy bone better while the 270 breaks up with equal hits? 270bullets disintegrate on the way to the target?

Im trying to understand how you see such a dramatic difference between two such closely matched cartridges,when your experience with a 270 flies in the face of so many others who have no problem with it and have killed game on this and other continents.

I mean I know people who have killed a few grizzly/brown bear with the cartridge.
Other people reading this have killed a few hundred head of African game from eland on down with a 270. What do you tell them to explain the mystical differences between a 6.5x55 and a 270 killing animals?


I find this pretty curious. Frankly I think it' s a BOS.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

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Originally Posted by Shodd

Though my 270 has now become my new red headed step child I do plan on keeping it around because red is great at shooting elk at 300 yds or less.

Or possibly to 400 since that WAS done in the 80s. grin


More accurately -- has been BEING done since the 80s.
Do you know who John Wooters was. ?

Do you know who JRS is ?
(Jon R Sundra) I'll help you out there.

There were other Gun Writer hunters that wrote of and hunted with and killed animals w/400 yd MPBR using 270 W & 280 R and. 7 RM rounds.

Before the days of the 'net' we couldn't get philosophies and ideologies from everyday experts like today. We had to read from Professional G Ws and Hunters in magazines. Some of them even showed 'pitchers' of their guns and such.

I guess those are by gone days of vicariously hunting & shooting through Professionals.

Such a loss to this new ballistic calculator generation.

Jerry

Bobin IS right, a BOS !


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Well then, it's settled!!! The 270 is magic fairy pixxy dust. Lol

Just to clarify for you, you and your pals
weren't the inventors of shooting flat and to MPBR of 400 yds in the 80s. It's been being done with the 270 since 1923

The 6.5 Swede came with a factory 1000 yd sight in 1895. That was only 30 years BEFORE the 270 figured out how to get to the 400 yd line. Or according to you 90 years before you and Bobin invented it. Lol. Better call the magic fairy pixxy dust lady.


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Gawd, can anyone else feel their IQ points dropping as we all participate in this thread?! crazy

I've killed probably 1500 head of game with the 270 Win; perhaps a couple hundred with the 6.5. The majority of those under a light but many not. Some at close range - many really - some a fair way out.

Mated with the slipperiest bullets available in each, loaded to max speeds... hmmm it's the 270 Win for me.

A .525bc 150g SST at 3000fps carries the mail a loooong way out. Can't see a 140g VLD out of a 6.5 Swede with a similar length bbl staying with it. Sorry, shooting game at 750y doesn't interest me.

And please save me the schidt about SSTs blowing up. The 150g version in the 270 Win is devastating. Ask me how I know.

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Bob the the Swede does it with alot less noise thats what I mean by FUSS.

Ive shot horse, donkeys, pigs and goats at long range and broadside penetration is a no brainer. Now I havent reloaded the Swede with modern powders but I had no trouble getting 140gr to 2920fps in a 21 inch 260rem. I got 155gr to 2800 thou I back both off a grain as I hunted in 106 F.

Ive knocked over 1000lb wild cattle at 200yds with a 260rem and a 140gr mono.

Yep the 270 does all the same and a smidge more but its noisy doing it.

and if I load up 130gr Berger VLDs 0.552 BC then I have a flat shooting round that pretty much does what a 270 does.

Ill build another 6.5x55 shortly as its my all time favourite.

Ive also run a 25/308, 250 savage previosuly and I've just built a 6lb Husky 30-06 CRF.

I say it as i see it and the 6.5 Swede is 1 of the all time greats.



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So ....it's noise.

Thanks Stevil glad we got to the bottom of that.

I've shot a 6.5 a bit. Nice cartridge but I still needed hearing protection.

Glad you like it. Good for you.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I prefer the 270 myself, it just works so well.


JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H

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Originally Posted by Shodd

Just to clarify for you, you and your pals
weren't the inventors of shooting flat and to MPBR of 400 yds in the 80s. It's been being done with the 270 since 1923

Shod

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Posted by Shod, P 20, Tues. - 12:23 PM

"I'd use the 270 for a 300 yd MPBR rifle but in no way do I agree with the "spin" or hype that the 270 is a 400 yd MPBR rifle with a 130 gr bullet. JMO "


hmmmmmmm, a conundrum ?; more like contradiction.


Shod which is it?



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