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BC isn't much good with large rock trajectory so your into recoil which most seem to be trying to fix, not increase. Jm2pennies.
W Its a myth that these calibers have rock trajectories. For example a 260 grain AB (BC 0.473) from 375 Ruger is actually 2" higher at 300 yards than 225 grain AB (0.55) from a 338 Win Mag despite it's BC disadvantage. Huh?
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BC isn't much good with large rock trajectory so your into recoil which most seem to be trying to fix, not increase. Jm2pennies.
W Its a myth that these calibers have rock trajectories. For example a 260 grain AB (BC 0.473) from 375 Ruger is actually 2" higher at 300 yards than 225 grain AB (0.55) from a 338 Win Mag despite it's BC disadvantage. Huh? Yup, no more 'shrooms for that guy !
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Out to 225 yards or so, BC is not much of a concern for me. This is the range that both my 358 Win as well as my 9.3x62 excel. For the 358 Win I use 225 grain NP's and my 9.3 likes 286 grain Norma Oryx and 286 grain NP's. I really like both calibers…a lot.
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Out to 225 yards or so, BC is not much of a concern for me. This is the range that both my 358 Win as well as my 9.3x62 excel. For the 358 Win I use 225 grain NP's and my 9.3 likes 286 grain Norma Oryx and 286 grain NP's. I really like both calibers…a lot. Hunters with 375 should listen up, this fella knows what he's talking about. LOL
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Left to right. 270 Hornady, 250 TTSX Barnes, 250 GMX Hornady, 260 Nosler Accubond, 300 Sierra Gameking, 300 GS Custom HV, and 300 Cutting edge. BC's in order some very questionable. .385, .424, .430, .486, .475, .480 and .823. From the shapes it does not make sense but then again.........
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Hammer has a 395 that looks like an arrow.
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True but in order to launch that 395 at any appreciable velocity you need a necked down 50 BMG
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My 358 Win and 9.3x62 are two of my favorites that I have grown to really like. For hunting, I load 225 gr. Nosler Partitions for my 358 Win and 286 gr. Norma Oryx for my 9.3x62. Both are very accurate in my rifles.
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To get higher bc's in 375 cal, the bullets HAVE to be heavier and longer with a sleek profile and you will need minimum of 10 twist barrels, faster is better (and longer than 26", preferably 30" ) and bigger cases to shoot them out of, the 375 H&H is at the very bottom of the long range food chain, especially in factory twist rifles with 24" and shorter barrels , There are 375 cal bullets and cartridges designed specifically for long range hunting and I'm not talking about a paltry 500 yard poke either, one only needs to man up and cough up the cash to acquire them, there is a huge and fantastic world outside of factory crap rifles and cartridges with the limitations they force on you ]photobucket[/url]
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BC isn't much good with large rock trajectory so your into recoil which most seem to be trying to fix, not increase. Jm2pennies.
W Its a myth that these calibers have rock trajectories. For example a 260 grain AB (BC 0.473) from 375 Ruger is actually 2" higher at 300 yards than 225 grain AB (0.55) from a 338 Win Mag despite it's BC disadvantage. Huh? Yup, no more 'shrooms for that guy ! Been shooting 250 Sierras (and BBC's) from 375 H&H's at 2900 fps+ for 30+ years. To 400 yards it stays ahead of any 250 gr load for the 338 Win Mag and shots about as flat as a 338 with 210's. Seen this from actual shooting, not reading tables....one reason my 338's went down the road. Think Swampland is right about bullets,cases and barrels for the 375 bore and playing at real long range.Heavier bullets, bigger cases,and faster twists required. I have a 10 twist Krieger about to be installed, but it will stay a 375 H&H because real long barrels and heavy weight rifles are over my head. Range limitations of 500-600 yards with a 375 are good enough for me.
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Out to 225 yards or so, BC is not much of a concern for me. This is the range that both my 358 Win as well as my 9.3x62 excel. For the 358 Win I use 225 grain NP's and my 9.3 likes 286 grain Norma Oryx and 286 grain NP's. I really like both calibers…a lot. Hunters with 375 should listen up, this fella knows what he's talking about. LOL Those 286gr. Nosler partitions are no laughing matter in the 9.3x62mm. The CZ 550 I used to have was damn accurate out to 350 yards with that bullet. At 100 yards it was like wasting bullets, because I always knew where they were going to go: As for my 375, It is accurate, but not as accurate. I also only shoot 3 shot groups with that ol girl...: However, this bullet and rifle are still game getters out to 500 yards, so why do I need a higher bc pill???? If I were going to snipe something at 1000 yards, then maybe. But until then I'll keep using partitions and keep it simple...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Out to 225 yards or so, BC is not much of a concern for me. This is the range that both my 358 Win as well as my 9.3x62 excel. For the 358 Win I use 225 grain NP's and my 9.3 likes 286 grain Norma Oryx and 286 grain NP's. I really like both calibers…a lot. Hunters with 375 should listen up, this fella knows what he's talking about. LOL Those 286gr. Nosler partitions are no laughing matter in the 9.3x62mm. The CZ 550 I used to have was damn accurate out to 350 yards with that bullet. At 100 yards it was like wasting bullets, because I always knew where they were going to go: As for my 375, It is accurate, but not as accurate. I also only shoot 3 shot groups with that ol girl...: However, this bullet and rifle are still game getters out to 500 yards, so why do I need a higher bc pill???? If I were going to snipe something at 1000 yards, then maybe. But until then I'll keep using partitions and keep it simple... Your last statement is exactly what most 375 H&H shooters already know and have exploited it's effectiveness at those ranges where it works best, sticking a heavier bullet in it won't make it fly flatter regardless of bc gains, need more fuel to do that awesome groups by the way, more proof that fat bullets can be shot with precision
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Damn 375's are easier to get to shoot than a lot of those anorexic, hyper fussy small bores.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Damn 375's are easier to get to shoot than a lot of those anorexic, hyper fussy small bores. Mine is pretty predictable.. I like that in a rifle...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Damn 375's are easier to get to shoot than a lot of those anorexic, hyper fussy small bores. yes sir, I agree the faster you ship them out the better they group, the 300 gr Swift A Frames seem to shoot best right around 2950 fps with a good stable powder, H 4350..... an awesome combination for general hunting ( generals are hard to drop, need more power ) rifle doubles as a long range rig with the 320 gr CEB MTH bullets with a .830 bc at 2700 fps, nice and smooth in a 9 lb 4 oz rifle ]photobucket[/url] edit** finally got that dang photobucket to upload pic, ....... ]photobucket[/url]
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Very nice shooting guys. Now where is jorge1 at??? I know he has a damn good shooting 375 too...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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from left to right in pic, my 375's are 3rd, 6th and last targets shown above shot with the 375 PRO, basically harnesses the power of the 378 Wby in a shorter Improved case with zero bullet into powder capacity loss due to throat design, made to run in 5 round 3.850" Accurate mags...... smokes the 375 Rum by 100 fps or so... got a batch of the 435 gr Chinchaga Steel Tip Hybrids on the way for the 375 Mjolnir (375/500 Jeffery Imp)... the 375 Warlord is under construction ]photobucket[/url]
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from left to right in pic, my 375's are 3rd, 6th and last targets shown above shot with the 375 PRO, basically harnesses the power of the 378 Wby in a shorter Improved case with zero bullet into powder capacity loss due to throat design, made to run in 5 round 3.850" Accurate mags...... smokes the 375 Rum by 100 fps or so... got a batch of the 435 gr Chinchaga Steel Tip Hybrids on the way for the 375 Mjolnir (375/500 Jeffery Imp)... the 375 Warlord is under construction ]photobucket[/url] Swamplord you're an intrepid force of nature on these wildcats....LOL! I can't keep up! I will stick with the anemic one way over on the left. But I do enjoy your posts. Pretty impressive line up!
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The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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what is the 375 warlord based on?
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