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Nope. smile

Now at least 3 pages discussing which saying is better. laugh

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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Nope. smile

Now at least 3 pages discussing which saying is better. laugh


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Originally Posted by jwall
As I've said in this thread and in other threads. If I could have only 1 rifle in 270 Win OR 280 Rem.....
I'd be happy with either. TRUE.


I have to add ONE qualifier:

If I were limited to factory ammo...270 hands down.

If I can handload either....makes NO difference.


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I just was home in PA for the holiday weekend. In local shops I saw Rem Core Lokts in 140, 150, and 165. There were Federal blue box 150's and Winchester BST's in 140. The .280 shooter is in far better shape with factory ammo than say, the .284 Win.

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Almost forgot Fed. Fusion 140's.

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I did a quick scan the other day too. I didn't see as many as you, but there were enough choices to satisfy any emergency need.

I really didn't start this topic to encite a pi$$ing contest, thou I was pretty sure one would ensue grin

I have 270/280/30-06 and 7RM, so I like them all.

I was just watching the guys having so much fun with the Finn and 270 topic, I wanted to help them have even more fun grin



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Originally Posted by moosemike

I just was home in PA for the holiday weekend. In local shops I saw Rem Core Lokts in 140, 150, and 165. There were Federal blue box 150's and Winchester BST's in 140. The .280 shooter is in far better shape with factory ammo than say, the .284 Win.


That sounds pretty good. As you know ammo & component availability bounces worse than a tennis ball. Nothing is guaranteed.

Being a handloader I don't rely on factory fodder for anything. From my perspective I'd just as soon to have EITHER one.


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Yeah - it's not like the 270 doesn't have a 160 ! No ?

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>>Bellydeep>> Recognize this ?

"A" being the operative word " b d p.15


Now -Please note MD's comment-----not mine.

Originally Posted by Mule Deer

Several years ago I did an analysis of the available .277 and .284 bullets and came to the conclusion that there were even more .277 bullets available.

These days there's an even greater selection of .270 bullets,....

But as always, somebody will pick nits with all this--which is why, as I mentioned earlier, arguments about ALMOST identical cartridges go on far longer.


" ALMOST identical"
Just tryin to sort the FACTS !!!

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I doubt he found more than one or two 160gr bullets for the .270 during his search.

I'm not going to waste time counting how many are available in 7mm.

There might be more .277 bullets available, but they are not concentrated at the heavy end of the scale like 7mm bullets are.

Whether or not that is necessary is another matter. But there is no doubt the .280 owns the game when it comes to S.D.


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For my use, I'll take the .280 every day of the week. Excellent and affordable bullets abound, which is important to me.

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Whelenaway,

I'm sure you do get 2850 fps with 168's from your 22" .280 barrel. My comparison was not about what somebody CAN get with handloads, but what happens when handloads are tested at the same pressure.


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Originally Posted by BobinNH


...because...understood good game bullets, could shoot straight and knew how to hunt. Those things alone negate a lot of discussions wasted comparing cartridges.


Bob, that eliminates a lot of gack flak right there. 🤔 😃

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These conversations about the 270 vs 280 have been raging on for ...oh....maybe since the 1970's (?),or at least that's when I became aware..

I never participated having rifles chambered for both, but finally grew weary of 280 lectures at the LGS, and said "piss on it" and bought a 7Rem Mag, leaving them both firmly in the dust.

I concluded it didn't matter which of the other two I owned because there was nothing I could do with a 280 that I couldn't do with a 270.....I was right on both counts.

When I joined the CF I was not surprised to see the same silly arguments going on.Might be one of the biggest wastes of grey matter in the rifle shooting world...especially today. smile




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Originally Posted by Mule Deer

But as always, somebody will pick nits with all this--which is why, as I mentioned earlier, arguments about ALMOST identical cartridges go on far longer. In the meantime, those who've actually used a bunch of different cartridges considerably eventually find it hard to stifle a yawn.


Indeed M D. After all these points made and others refuted......

the "nit picking" continues on this page. > P 17 <

"None are so blind as those who will not see"


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Yup,the Campfire does take "pole vaulting over tick turds" to a whole new level.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Yup,the Campfire does take "pole vaulting over tick turds" to a whole new level.


grinC'mon man, yer trying to take half the fun out of being here!!! grin


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I'm surprised somebody didn't bring up the .280 Ackley Improved. If the .280's great, the Improved version has to be better! :-)


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The .280 AI is the best. it goes to 11.

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Not only can the .280 AI match the velocity of 150-grain .270 bullets with 160's, providing all the benefits of another 10 grains of bullet weight, but many handloaders report the .280 AI exceeds the velocity of the 7mm Remington Magnum.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Yup,the Campfire does take "pole vaulting over tick turds" to a whole new level.


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