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If you guys think Jeff is really out testing eld's and shooting groups in the 3's, then you are as dumb as he is...didn't know he was a pothead, that explains the fictional world he lives in!
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If you guys think Jeff is really out testing eld's and shooting groups in the 3's, then you are as dumb as he is...didn't know he was a pothead, that explains the fictional world he lives in! Don't normally reply to your drivel but since you are essentially calling me a liar, here's reality for ya. Also, fück you. I shot several 3-shot groups today right around that size (didn't measure them).... prone w/Harris and my uber-tac rear Crown Royal beanbag..... and from a Kimber 7 WSM to boot, not my heavy 7 WSM. 30 rounds through the Kimber, all 162's, and a couple mags through the AR as the Kimber's barrel cooled. Here's one.... And here's another: I'm not messing with ELD's? News to me! All shooting pics are from this afternoon. All shot with the Kimber from prone at 100 yards. NF SHV scope. Both groups were wrecked with subsequent shots, which was my reason for being there in the first place... It was my third time up shooting just since Monday.... have been chasing demons with the Kimber and today I caught a couple. A trigger hand wrist angle issue and a bipod pre-loading inconsistency. Flyers to the right. Last 9 shots today went roughly 1" group, maybe 1.1". I won't pat my own back too hard until I can repeat it over several sessions; a light 7 WSM is non-trivial to shoot that well. But I think I got them on the run now... I can shoot tiny groups all day long from prone with the heavy 7 WSM and I'll gladly prove it in person. I'm messing with ELD's in two rifles, the 162 "X" in the heavy 7 WSM and 208 Match in my '06. However none were fired today. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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while the argument is going to be not consistent enough to be .3 groups on average, that is showing promise!
I'd take the 195s any day if long is the goal... over 162s but thats just my lr background dealing with wind...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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PS, since its all stirred...
Voting Hillary this fall? LOL
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Hey dog catcher.
You are a miserable POS. Give it a break.
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Jeff nice pics of bullet boxes on the floor, lol!!! You are the gift that keeps on giving.
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Jeff nice pics of bullet boxes on the floor, lol!!! You are the gift that keeps on giving. At least he is trying you're just constantly a Fphuuuk.
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the older I get, I realize that some folks are just born to be smart ass ass holes their whole life and will never get past that.
We are are supposed to deal with them but not others.
Don't get it. Never have really. Much more clear now that I'm a bit older and happen to realize I work for the same type of person. They just can't help themselves.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Recently I decided life is too short to even read some of the posters here. Maybe they can't help it, but I don't have to look at their stuff.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation." Everyday Hunter
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Howdy folks. Sorry for my part in the drama here. Pretty good at ignoring these guys, but every now and then I fall off the wagon. Anyhoo..... this is why this bullet (162 ELD-X) has got my attention. Shot this this morning with the Lite (my heavy 7 WSM); this is an aggregate of (3) 162 Amax and (3) 162 ELD-X, shot from prone with a Harris and my tactical beanbag. Mainly, though, today I was working with the Kimber 7 WSM. It's keeping me humble. Still pulling flyers to the right but they are smaller and less frequent.
The CENTER will hold.
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FÜCK PUTIN!
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tactical bean bag? I have a bean bag, never got a tactical one.
Off a harris thats not bad either btw.
if you are having fliers to left or right issue, and its taking a long time to sort it out, watch your recoil, is the gun coming straight up and back and then back down on target or does it recoil to one side and land on that side slightly... may well be lack of NPA and or some muscling.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Howdy folks. Sorry for my part in the drama here. Pretty good at ignoring these guys, but every now and then I fall off the wagon. Anyhoo..... this is why this bullet (162 ELD-X) has got my attention. Shot this this morning with the Lite (my heavy 7 WSM); this is an aggregate of (3) 162 Amax and (3) 162 ELD-X, shot from prone with a Harris and my tactical beanbag. Mainly, though, today I was working with the Kimber 7 WSM. It's keeping me humble. Still pulling flyers to the right but they are smaller and less frequent. Jeff you Keep it up. Dogdick might have to eat his hat. . Thanks for sharing and no apologies needed. Never back down not for a second not ever. Got some 208 AMAX's down range this morning 625 yards needed 3.25 moa of wind dope. Just a breeze but it went sub moa. target was to wet to peal and save.
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Hey dog catcher.
You are a miserable POS. Give it a break.
Lefty C Hey if Jeff0 can suddenly turn into a genuine rifle Looney after an entire life supporting left wing anti gun policies more power to him He even has a patriotic avatar now We all know that people change their deeply held life long beliefs at the drop of a hat right?
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FredIII, I need to get down shooting with you soon.
Took my 208 amax's out again today. Still getting 3025fps avg with an SD of 5.7 from my 24" barrel. It's holding sub moa to 500yds which was the furthest target we had out. 3.25 wind hold sounds familiar as that's what it took to smack the rock was lazered at 1018yds.
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Baby was born last week and mom is off all summer. So we need to pick a day and get it done I'm in. Be nice to let this rain pass let's try not this but next weekend.
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What are the twists rates of your rifles? I've run the stability factors and they look marginal at all environmental zones I'd hunt in with a factory Remington 9 1/4" twist
Please God, give me some good tags this year....
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JJ,
You should have no problems with the 162 in a standard twist Remington at 7RM speeds.
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Guys, thanks for the good posts. Yesterday I hit Cabelas to hopefully snag another box of the 162 ELD-X, which they were out of. However they did have 7mm 175 ELD-X's. Hadn't heard of that one. I was sorely tempted, for grins if nothing else, but I'm too enamored with my practice bullet (162 Amax) and a hopefully-decent controlled expansion bullet (162 ELD-X) having the same POI @ 100 and nearly identical BC.
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Jeff, have you checked the POIs at your planned hunting range? Thought about the 162Amax for my 7mmRM, but then it got discontinued, so won't mess with it until the 160gr Partition fails me. May not be the best paper puncher, but that is what I use 160gr Sierra SPBT GKs for, slight load change, but same POI at 300yd, good enough for my endeavours.
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Guys, thanks for the good posts. Yesterday I hit Cabelas to hopefully snag another box of the 162 ELD-X, which they were out of. However they did have 7mm 175 ELD-X's. Hadn't heard of that one. I was sorely tempted, for grins if nothing else, but I'm too enamored with my practice bullet (162 Amax) and a hopefully-decent controlled expansion bullet (162 ELD-X) having the same POI @ 100 and nearly identical BC. I bought a box of 162s to play with but I changed my mind. I'm just north of Eugene, they're yours if you want them. P
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