24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,535
Likes: 24
Campfire Kahuna
OP Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 69,535
Likes: 24
This is clearly an unequal contest. The LC has more clearance, better tires, and apparently a locker in at least 1 end, maybe both. They say right at the start that the Jeep's tires are bald.
The Jeep's owner has more money to spend on tearing up his rig than I care to spend.



“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell

It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
GB1

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 16,000
R
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
R
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 16,000
that wasn't much of an exercise in terms of real mud, real knarly conditions.
i have a multiptude of flat fender jeeps, and a fj40 cruiser.
i would put that fj40 up against any jeep. few years ago i was pulling out of a real long steep canyon mud up to the axles and was smirking as i went around some of the new 4x4trucks buried in the mud where they didn't get ten feet.


THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
I had 4.5" of lift and 31's on two diff XJ's.
No sway bars either......drove fine at 80MPH (squirrely as a Wrangler LOL).

Beat the hell out of them, loads of fun.
One died at 225 K the other around 285K.
Latter reborn with full widths and Chevy 350.
Actually saw it driving around a week or so ago.

Good old boy network of Jeep parts is no more. Expensive to tear stuff up nowadays.

Trails are mean, but mud is meaner. That crap jacks all the electrical. Stay out of the mud and things should go better. If you do mud, like trail mud (no pits).........do no pressure washer engine area when done.

Jeep dealership says that's proly the #1 cause of stuff coming in.



Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
I might buy another ZJ tomorrow.
Can yank the doors off this one then.... [Linked Image]

Bud got his Liberty CRD stuck yoting. Tried several times to get unstuck. No go. I asked if I could try and he thought I was being a smart ass. About a minute later.....unstuck.

I think we didn't even need the heater on the way home, his face so red.....

Lockers are great, but then you air down and try tougher stuff and trash more $$$$$ Mild lift, decent tires, open diff.......you can do a lot. Depends on what you know and how little you care too wink

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,836
Likes: 3
C
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
C
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,836
Likes: 3
Had a Jeep...had a TLC.....I'd get another TLC.


Mathew 22: 37-39



IC B2

Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
All the crap JP magazine says you'll break, you will.
Even if you just are a moderate wheeler.

Lockers and other help, but then make you break more expensive stuff.

LOL

Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
Know guys that built rock buggies. Go anywhere rigs.
Said they sold them because they weren't fun.

Only can run with other rigs of same.
Put it in low and they go anywhere.

No challenge on most trails. The fun/challenge was just in the build.

Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
I wouldn't wheel anything that costs over 5K.
Risk of a total too high.
$2500 is even better smile


Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,841
Jeep, cheap mods, beat it up, throw away in 2 yrs and get another.

But I have seen guys running Zukes......Trackers cut up with 31's.........beatin the hell out of them. Looked like they were having a ball!

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 32,312
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 32,312
I've owned both. Jeeps (mine was a TJ) are unmatched in terms of wheelbase, other than Zuk's or really old LC's at least. The straight-six they used to put in Jeeps before they pussified them was a fantastic off-road engine. I had my TJ regeared to 4.11 and with that torque monster engine, it was like an electric motor. Almost impossible to stall it in anything short of extreme wheeling.

My LC was a '95 w/o a locker and my opinion was and remains that it was the finest automobile ever built. The folks at Toyota refined the drivetrain and chassis for decades and engineered and built them to last forever. Nothing lasts forever, but they tried, and the vehicle exuded quality at every turn. That why they still run and look so good 20+ years later. The I-6 engine they used was no slouch. The AWD system was old-school and amazing. They were built like a tank (mine died saving my life).

HOWEVER, the longer wheelbase by neccessity greatly decreased the break over angle and agility, compared to a Jeep.

I miss my jeep. I miss the LC, but I sure don't miss the 11 mpg.


The CENTER will hold.

Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two

FÜCK PUTIN!
IC B3

Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 16,010
Likes: 20
M
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
M
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 16,010
Likes: 20
I will take an Old School Cool Land Cruiser every time.

[Linked Image]


THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.

The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.

The website is up and running!

www.lostriverammocompany.com

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,602
Likes: 2
D
dpd Offline
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,602
Likes: 2
Toyota FJ 40 hands down. I had two of them . 72' & 74, Also had a 79' CJ 7. Land cruisers rule!!! Built like tanks and would go almost anywhere. Stil kicking myself for selling my 74' cruiser.

Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 14,753
Likes: 4
S
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
S
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 14,753
Likes: 4
I owned a Jeep.....ONCE!

I came to the conclusion that Jeep should offer a lifetime supply of Preparation H to all their customers!!

I've rode broncs that were a helluva lot better on my azz!!


Even birds know not to land downwind!
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,965
Likes: 5
J
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
J
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,965
Likes: 5
I owned one of those Cheorkees for a while, not bad. Better tires and a better driver would have helped.

I've also had Wranglers. If you absolutely have to have a shorter wheel base they are OK after spending lots of $$$$ on modifications.

I wish I'd have bought one of the Land Cruisers back in the 70's.

I have an 07 Tacoma right now that is no longer my daily driver. I plan some slightly larger,more aggressive tires and a mild lift. It is by far better than the Jeeps I've owned. The long wheel base is a disadvantage in some spots, an advantage in others.


Most people don't really want the truth.

They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 32,130
Likes: 1
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 32,130
Likes: 1
I've got a 1979 FJ40. My brother has Jeeps (CJ7 and 2x CJ8s). I wouldn't trade my FJ40 for all three of his Jeeps!


Originally Posted by 16penny
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,312
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,312
I've had five Jeeps. Two CJ5's, a CJ2a, a ZJ, and still have a JKRU.

I like the JKRU, never owned a LC, but for trail riding it doesn't much matter. The fun is in challenging yourself as a driver to make the rig do all it can. My choice today would be a Scout.


“You never need fear a man, no matter what his size. When danger threatens, call on me, and I will equalize.”
Samuel Colt.

�Common sense is genius dressed up in work clothes.� - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,243
Owned a couple of CJ's....sold em and dug a big hole in the back yard that I go out and throw money in when ever I get the hankering for another...

Been driving a Toyota's since 87 and haven't looked back....

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 16,000
R
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
R
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 16,000
i have what is refered to as a 10/72 fj40. except it's been lifted a little, has a 70engine, that is the chevy straight six by the way with headers and a weber intake probably doing about 180hp, 4.11 axles, and i put a 4speed with a compound low in it. It's pretty knarly I also have good tires on it. its got the later ambulance doors and other modifications.
it kind of waddles through mud as most of the weight is in the front. Two gas tanks too so it runs a long time.
i was going to put a/c in it, power steering, and disc brakes, but never got around to doing it.

Last edited by RoninPhx; 06/18/16.

THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 46,751
T
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
T
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 46,751
I work with a guy who thinks his Cherokee will go through anything. Between him and this guy, their iq's total 7.


Camp is where you make it.
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 56,380
Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 56,380
Likes: 10
My dads old Wagoneer was weighted 60/40 front/rear and that dude there would push snow over the hood until it piled up on the windshield. It was an impressive climber too.


_______________________________________________________
An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack

LOL
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

509 members (204guy, 17CalFan, 007FJ, 1badf350, 1shotnokilz, 1moredeer, 47 invisible), 2,145 guests, and 1,132 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,194,547
Posts18,531,369
Members74,039
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.123s Queries: 54 (0.040s) Memory: 0.9069 MB (Peak: 1.0041 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-23 13:04:24 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS