This is clearly an unequal contest. The LC has more clearance, better tires, and apparently a locker in at least 1 end, maybe both. They say right at the start that the Jeep's tires are bald. The Jeep's owner has more money to spend on tearing up his rig than I care to spend.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
that wasn't much of an exercise in terms of real mud, real knarly conditions. i have a multiptude of flat fender jeeps, and a fj40 cruiser. i would put that fj40 up against any jeep. few years ago i was pulling out of a real long steep canyon mud up to the axles and was smirking as i went around some of the new 4x4trucks buried in the mud where they didn't get ten feet.
I had 4.5" of lift and 31's on two diff XJ's. No sway bars either......drove fine at 80MPH (squirrely as a Wrangler LOL).
Beat the hell out of them, loads of fun. One died at 225 K the other around 285K. Latter reborn with full widths and Chevy 350. Actually saw it driving around a week or so ago.
Good old boy network of Jeep parts is no more. Expensive to tear stuff up nowadays.
Trails are mean, but mud is meaner. That crap jacks all the electrical. Stay out of the mud and things should go better. If you do mud, like trail mud (no pits).........do no pressure washer engine area when done.
Jeep dealership says that's proly the #1 cause of stuff coming in.
I might buy another ZJ tomorrow. Can yank the doors off this one then....
Bud got his Liberty CRD stuck yoting. Tried several times to get unstuck. No go. I asked if I could try and he thought I was being a smart ass. About a minute later.....unstuck.
I think we didn't even need the heater on the way home, his face so red.....
Lockers are great, but then you air down and try tougher stuff and trash more $$$$$ Mild lift, decent tires, open diff.......you can do a lot. Depends on what you know and how little you care too
I've owned both. Jeeps (mine was a TJ) are unmatched in terms of wheelbase, other than Zuk's or really old LC's at least. The straight-six they used to put in Jeeps before they pussified them was a fantastic off-road engine. I had my TJ regeared to 4.11 and with that torque monster engine, it was like an electric motor. Almost impossible to stall it in anything short of extreme wheeling.
My LC was a '95 w/o a locker and my opinion was and remains that it was the finest automobile ever built. The folks at Toyota refined the drivetrain and chassis for decades and engineered and built them to last forever. Nothing lasts forever, but they tried, and the vehicle exuded quality at every turn. That why they still run and look so good 20+ years later. The I-6 engine they used was no slouch. The AWD system was old-school and amazing. They were built like a tank (mine died saving my life).
HOWEVER, the longer wheelbase by neccessity greatly decreased the break over angle and agility, compared to a Jeep.
I miss my jeep. I miss the LC, but I sure don't miss the 11 mpg.
Toyota FJ 40 hands down. I had two of them . 72' & 74, Also had a 79' CJ 7. Land cruisers rule!!! Built like tanks and would go almost anywhere. Stil kicking myself for selling my 74' cruiser.
I owned one of those Cheorkees for a while, not bad. Better tires and a better driver would have helped.
I've also had Wranglers. If you absolutely have to have a shorter wheel base they are OK after spending lots of $$$$ on modifications.
I wish I'd have bought one of the Land Cruisers back in the 70's.
I have an 07 Tacoma right now that is no longer my daily driver. I plan some slightly larger,more aggressive tires and a mild lift. It is by far better than the Jeeps I've owned. The long wheel base is a disadvantage in some spots, an advantage in others.
Most people don't really want the truth.
They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
I've had five Jeeps. Two CJ5's, a CJ2a, a ZJ, and still have a JKRU.
I like the JKRU, never owned a LC, but for trail riding it doesn't much matter. The fun is in challenging yourself as a driver to make the rig do all it can. My choice today would be a Scout.
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i have what is refered to as a 10/72 fj40. except it's been lifted a little, has a 70engine, that is the chevy straight six by the way with headers and a weber intake probably doing about 180hp, 4.11 axles, and i put a 4speed with a compound low in it. It's pretty knarly I also have good tires on it. its got the later ambulance doors and other modifications. it kind of waddles through mud as most of the weight is in the front. Two gas tanks too so it runs a long time. i was going to put a/c in it, power steering, and disc brakes, but never got around to doing it.
My dads old Wagoneer was weighted 60/40 front/rear and that dude there would push snow over the hood until it piled up on the windshield. It was an impressive climber too.
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack