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I've shot a few, they go fast'ish.
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I do, I'd have to find the box as it's the only place written. I'm guessing it was around 53-54grs.
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I run 51 for the 200's, that I know.
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Anyone have experience using 250 Horn RN at 358 speeds? I have a moose permit 2 boxes and a 9(.358)x57, it shoots them about as fast as max 358 loads. Near as I can figure they will be going a bit over 1800 fps at 200 yds and should expand. I also have a box of 250 Speer Grand Slams for it and have good experiences w/the 250 GS in my 338-06 at similar speeds with deer. Any comments? Thanks-Muddy
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Anyone tried the 180 TTSX from the .358 Win?
BC I've tried both the 180's and the 200's. While the 180's shot OK, the 200's shot much better. Both with TAC. Used the 200gr load for bear in Manitoba this spring. Bang flop. WN
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What would be good deer bullets for the 358 Win? Is the speed too slow for the 225gr Sierra for proper expansion? I've used hornady and remington 200 gr RN for deer for a couple decades. Point blank shooting out to 250 yds. I have not seen any real need for more expensive bullets on deer.
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I've tried many of those mentioned. In my TC single shot 356/358, the two I'm using most right now are the 180gr Speer FP and the 225gr NAB. The nab opens better than the speer, though....so I'm migrating to more of those and the 200gr NABs.
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I finally got my 700 SA 358 Win put together. Loved the cartridge in my BLR. Sold that rifle now plan on working up loads. I'm surprised at the difference in loading manual loads comparing Hornady and Lyman. But I used 48 grains of H4895 in the BLR. That'll be my first load. Does anyone prefer Varget, IMR-4064, IMR-4166, RE7 or perhaps IMR3031? I just purchased an 8 pounder of TAC Too. Thanks.
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IMR 4064 works well in my .35 Whelen with 225 gr. Sierra & Nosler bullets, should work well in the .358 too.
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Handloader August 2008 #258 shows 52 grains of TAC for 2,749fps with 200 gr Barnes triple shock.
That seems high pressure/velocity to me.
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Wow that is smoking for a 358. Mine shoots 200gr hornady factory loads in mid 2600s.
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Handloader August 2008 #258 shows 52 grains of TAC for 2,749fps with 200 gr Barnes triple shock.
That seems high pressure/velocity to me.
Wow that is impressive....I wonder what I can get with that load in a 16" barrel 358 win.
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There is no need to use any "premium" bullet for whitetail or any deer for that matter. The 225 grain Sierra over 47 to 49 grains of TAC will let the air out of the largest buck with ease. I've used that load on everything from 50# fawns to 240# bucks and have never had one go more than 2 or 3 jumps before crumbling. More often than not they die where they stand. That same powder charge under the 225 grain Nosler Partition is "Big Medicine for moose and elk.
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We used the 200 gr TTSX extensively in Africa in 2012. Worked like a charm.
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What was your COAL on that Ed? TAC?
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I plan on using Hornady interlocks
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If anyone would like a copy of MuleDeer's article on loading the .358 shoot me an e-mail and I will get it to you.
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If anyone would like a copy of MuleDeer's article on loading the .358 shoot me an e-mail and I will get it to you.
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