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Sure is, last year 250 savage was not to be found locally, 25-20 either. Now at least one of the online retailers has 25-20 listed, or they did a couple days ago. Ronnie
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A little off topic but what the heck,.....
Whatever happened to the unprimed 30/06 Fed. nickel match brass ? That stuff was grrrrrrrreat.VERY uniform and went through my sizer like snot on a doorknob.
A little tin in the neck area but not enough to create a problem if using a bushing sizer.
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.257 Roberts brass seems to have disappeared all the way around! Unless you want to pay $75 per 50 for Nosler, you are out of luck. Even loaded 257 ammo is outrageously priced.
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I've seen Jamison .257 Roberts brass on a couple of websites for considerably less than Noslers.
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John,
Thanks for the info as always.
Im very encouraged that the family owned, pro gun companies are getting into the markets traditionally "owned" by Big Red/Green.
Not that Ill quit using the bulk stuff, but Nosler, Hornady and Starline for starters are still family businesses with leadership that loves the shooting sports.
I'll take some dinged Nosler cases over R-P/WW stuff with runout of .005 after firing any day!
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I'm good with buying Hornady. Last night I opened a box of their .243 and it dropped right into the case gauge. I think a touch with a chamfer tool would leave it ready to load.
The overrun Nosler .223 I bought last year was, as advertised, ready to load. I don't mind paying a bit more for that convenience and quality.
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I suspect ammo's where their brass is mostly going, This. Until production catches up with demand again, I'm not buying anything new in add oddball cartridge unless I can make it out of something ubiquitous.
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Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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I have to look into the Hornaday .25-35. That is an easy path to .219 Zipper, and likely much cheaper than the $1 a pop that have been paying for reformed .30-30.
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I've used a bunch of the Hornady 308 Win. match cases with excellent results. They've been very uniform, make up into very straight cartridges, and have stood up to standard full power loads no problem.
They've even had me buying markedly fewer Lapua cases. A balls to the wall Palma loader may find the Lapuas tougher though. Thanks, that's good to know. There is still very little Win or R-P brass on store shelves but lots of Hornady brass of all kinds.
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Always a bit hesitant to post something about "look how smart I am in hindsight", but between Obama Shortages I and II I accumulated 6-8 bags (300-400 cases) of all of the standard calibers I load, mostly Winchester but some Remington brand. Those are "new in reserve" and doesn't count the few thousand cases currently in use. Nowadays what with not firewalling my loads, neck sizing with a Lee collet and annealing properly, I fully expect to get 20-25+ loads from each case and possibly a lot more than that. The Winchester .243AI cases are at 26x and still going strong with several other lots of different calibers getting very close to 20x. That's way more than I used to get so I'm in unexplored waters from here on in. Since I don't burn up ammo at the rate I used to it seems there really is a lifetime supply of brass on the shelf...
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It seems to me that finding brass is a little easier than a few months ago. Granted it's not Remington. But it is probably better brass along with a higher price tag. However, Most of my brass was bought when the president between the Bushes was elected. And I still have a quantity of military brass dated in the 40's that I still use.
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I've noticed Remington has had several hard to find calibers of ammo on the shelf lately, 25-20, 250 Savage to name a couple. Ronnie Love to find some .25-20; I've got two .25-20's and a .218 Bee to feed. You CAN reform the .32-20 for either, but I'd rather have correct brass. I just checked Midway, Grafs, and Midsouth and none had any .25-20
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Lots available. Look at ammoseek.com.
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That's R-P .25-20 loaded ammo. I'd rather just reform .32-20 Win's Lots available. Look at ammoseek.com. I searched - all of it that comes up is for the .25-20 Single Shot. Which used to be difficult to find, but is now easier than the .25-20 Win. Maybe Starline or Jamison will start making .25-20, or Bee brass
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.257 Roberts brass seems to have disappeared all the way around! Unless you want to pay $75 per 50 for Nosler, you are out of luck. Even loaded 257 ammo is outrageously priced. This morning I opened one of my last bags of WW .257 Roberts +P brass. I spent over 2 hours fiddling with flash holes, primer pockets, deburring case necks, and so on which lead to it being where Nosler stuff is straight from the box. After that the cost of Nosler doesn't look so bad. I suspect when my current few boxes of varmint bullets are shot up my .257 is going to exit the dual-purpose role .. it may even get sold outright or rebarreled to something I can get brass for. Tom
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As I noted earlier in the thread, Jamison .257 cases are available and considerably less expensive than Nosler. I haven't used enough Jamison brass to come to an overall conlusion yet, but so far it's worked pretty well.
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I'm starting to see the bottom of the barrel of 60's-vintage Lake City '06 brass I bought a generation ago. (Said brass having been used to form everything from .257's to 8x57's, as well as as-is for .30 Gov't's.) I'm glad to know that there are new sources for good brass stepping up to the plate for when the day arrives when I have to buy new brass.
I'm feeling kinda sheepish for having scoured the internet over the last couple of years for .25-35 brass to hoard it for future feeding of my .22 Savage Hi Powers. Now if one of those fine companies would deign to make .30-40 brass too...
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Here's a 300 yard group fired with new RP 257 brass in a stock Ruger M77 Hawkeye. Run over expander ball, chamfer, seat bullets and shoot. It will cluster at 100. The orange dot is 6". Recently a pal reports that RP brass handles pressures in his 7mm Mashburn better than the Norma cases. No issues with Remington brass. Seems pretty good.
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