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Like I said, I missed Cruz last January.
He was great during the shutdown, disappeared in January, after the mid-terms.
Forty (allegedly 54) Senators like Cruz where elected or in position and showed up two Januarys ago....
Rubio and Cruz pretty much are the same ilk, voted in by by the Patriot movement under the same pretenses.
I get emails from [bleep] like Cruz, who apparently have the balls to get bitchy with their own frontrunner, but fail to take on the real enemies of the Republic.
If its a lost cause he's real nasty...I'll give him that.
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Yep, he left it up to the individual, he in no way endorsed Trump, to think otherwise is delusional.
Our local politicians noted that ommision while watching it unfold, you must do the right thing , we ended up with the liberals back in power as no one took our election seriously. , without appearing weak and knobby kneed like Christie or someone else. Get out and vote. Vote your conscience. Vote for those who will be faithful to the Constitution. If you are voting for president, WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK HE MEANS? You want him to say the words? Don't attack his wife. Any man that would loudly endorse somebody who insults is wife is a freaking pansy or power seeking scumbag establishment politician (like Christie). But he did endorse him. You just have to be smart enough to realize it. I could see this making sense if you posted it last night. But after Cruz's comments this morning about never endorsing the man who was a meanie to the missus, you must just be really stupid.
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Cruz gave Trump the middle finger the a hole deserved !!
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Or is he just having them all raise their arms to pledge their loyalty to him again? That was so special, I will treasure that moment forever. My vote is my loyalty  ![[Linked Image]](http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/boisdarccreek/Political%20posters/3676D73D00000578-0-image-a-24_1469092854870_zpsru7xnftp.jpg)
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Yep, he left it up to the individual, he in no way endorsed Trump, to think otherwise is delusional.
Our local politicians noted that ommision while watching it unfold, you must do the right thing , we ended up with the liberals back in power as no one took our election seriously. He endorsed Trump as clearly as day, without appearing weak and knobby kneed like Christie or someone else. Get out and vote. Vote your conscience. Vote for those who will be faithful to the Constitution. If you are voting for president, WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK HE MEANS? You want him to say the words? Don't attack his wife. Any man that would loudly endorse somebody who insults is wife is a freaking pansy or power seeking scumbag establishment politician (like Christie). But he did endorse him. You just have to be smart enough to realize it. The message I got from Cruz is that people should vote their conscience, BUT he in good conscience could not endorse Trump. Trump or conscience. Reading between the lines that is what I took him to be saying. If his conscience was clear to vote Trump why not say it, why be vague? Cruz brings into sharp focus a very real question that should be asked and answered, (for the honest Evangelicals). Is honest and godly conscience congruent with voting for Trump? I am open to all reasonable argumentation from scripture and reason, but as I see it now with what light I have; my conscience compels me to vote Trump against Hillary. My conscience would trouble me if I neglected this duty to my family and fellow citizens in the light of Hillary's manifested corruption, swindling and even premeditated murder such as Vince Foster. I am not deluded by false hopes or foolish fairy tale dreams; Trump is a crooked stick and he will beat the rabid dog when it comes down to it. What more does anyone really expect from the civil magistrate?
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Ted Cruz wants to be president.
He believes it will be possible after 4 years of Hillary.
Therefore it's I n his interest, meets his personal goals, for Trump to lose.
TRUMP- GABBARD 2024
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Jesus, people. Cruz's 'presidential' future was shot when he picked Fiorina, regardless if he endorsed Trump. Trump ensured that his political future was as well, (via manafort and/or Gingrich,) when they asked Cruz to speak. And why not? Trump doesn't like the man so any way it goes, Trump wins, Cruz loses. They knew he wouldn't refuse to speak or he risked being called a whiner. If he showed up and endorsed Donald, they get his endorsement - and he's subservient for the rest of his career. Or, he does what he did and the internet kills him, and Trump can get party unity. Gee. Look what happened. Frankly, it was all pretty ruthless, politically speaking. Gave cruz a sword and asked him to commit hari kari on stage. I get it, you guys don't like the "televangelist politician guy". And he pandered for votes, and he skipped worked at the Senate while campaigning (like every other sitting politician running for higher office), and he played dirty procedural politics (vs dirty personal attacks) Seemed a lot of guys didn't like the Republican party because of what it was doing when Trump said last March that he would not honor his pledge.
Where was all the righteous indignation from people then? Going on and on now like Cruz did some mean thing by not following the party protocol. JFC. In general, a lot of people cut Trump slack that they don't give elsewhere. I hope for our sake it all works out. And if you don't really think Cruz wasn't at least trying to appease the party, he did outline most of, if not all of Trump's platform as something we, the people, need. ISIS, immigration, build the wall, freedom, constitution, etc, etc all of it Trump's talking points. Of course, Cruz forgot the supreme court, but just to show you how scripted it was, Trump took care of cleaning that up with his tweet following Cruz's speech: Ted Cruz talks about the Constitution but doesn't say that if the Dems win the Presidency, the new JUSTICES appointed will destroy us all! Seems Trump (and Manafort and Gingrich) have got manipulation of the masses down pat. The dozen threads on this and continued fist raising over a non-issue is proof.
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The bottom line is that at this level, I expect people to put aside personal likes or dislikes, for the good of the country. Trump is the Republican candidate. Hillary is the Democrat candidate. This election is pivotal, a tipping point. We either try to do a reset and get back to the track that made America the world leader, or we go the route of Socialism/Communism. The stakes are massively more important than somebody calling your wife ugly. Trump is a fighter, not a politician. Attack him, and expect some low blows. I accept that, if he gets the job done. Our enemy fights dirty. I want a dirty fighter in my corner. Get over it guys. This is a war. The fuss over who is running is over. There is no doubt in my mind, who is best for America. Stop the derision. We have to win.
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Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.
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When you begin to parrot the Republican establishment pundits, you should stop talking.
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Calhoun you're a very confused man if you think that speech was endorsing Trump. An entire nation besides you saw it differently. Time to go back for another round of that electro shock therapy buddy-you're way overdue.
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Cruz said: And to those listening, please, don’t stay home in November. Stand, and speak, and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution. Now, it's obvious that Trump is the ONLY presidential candidate that will defend our freedom and be faithful to the Constitution, so it's obvious that Cruz was endorsing Trump. To believe otherwise means that you believe Trump won't be faithful to the Constitution, or that you believe Hillary will be MORE faithful to the Constitution. Anybody who thinks he wasn't endorsing Trump must believe Trump won't be faithful to the Constitution. Hound those traitors out. They are false followers of Trump. Enter their names into the Enemies of America list, and make them move to Virginia. Were you on the sauce when you wrote that??? Or so pro-Cruz that you're tunnel vision narrowed to a microscopic slit? TC made it very plain that people should vote for anyone they feel like but NOT DJT.
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If Cruz isn't going to put his country first over someone posting a twitter jab about his wife and playing Oliver Stone about his crazy ass daddy, then what kind of president would Cruz make?
he's a lousy excuse for a man claiming to be an evangelical christian worthy of the office.
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Cruz has made himself irrelevant.....so who cares anymore?
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Cruz has made himself irrelevant.....so who cares anymore? I'm in utter disbelief that men who profess to be hunters, trackers, and killers of game couldn't smell the stench tracks cruz was putting down, gives me a damn headache that so many are so blind!
Trump Won!
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Cruz,Grahm,Kasich, BCF...and the Rino non attendees just gave the will of the people the middle finger...and you're impressed ?
Have a nice weekend.
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Hence the boos......
The crowd boos, so we must all boo along with them?
That's kind of the establishment way of thinking..
No, they boo'd because they know he's a POS slimy snake. Trump let him speak because he knew what would happen. Cruz was disrespectful to Trumps wife, first I'll add, and Trump let him step on his dick. It's Cruz that was played. And you apparently.
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I was never a Trump fan, but I do recognize that the Party did everything that it could, to keep him from getting the nomination, despite asking Him, and only Him at first, to sign the pledge. I will support Trump as much as I can from now until election by talking Him up and sending Him the little money that I can afford. I hope all here will do the same. The people spoke, and we should all listen, and do our best to keep Hillary out of the White house. Our very freedom is at stake. miles
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RWE, your whole post summarized my feelings exactly. +1
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