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Well....after a half century as a Carpenter/Superintendent....probably twenty years of which I spent driving a nail gun....I had seen several nail gun related injuries but somehow managed to avoid being the victim of one until a couple of days ago while doing a little remodeling in my dog kennel..... While dangling off of a ladder in a precarious position nailing up a piece of facia board I did a double tap and sent an errant 16 penny into my thumb....clean through my thumb actually..... Naturally I stopped what I was doing and pulled it out which caused a pretty good flow of red stuff all over me and the ladder but I got that stopped up with my bandanna and made it in the house where I flushed it with some betadine and applied a good tight bandage to stop the bleeding... Took the bandage off today to clean it and survey the damage....other than some swelling and bruising I think I'll live but boy is that poor old arthritic lower joint in my thumb sore.... Here's a pic....you can see wherer it went through my thumb and stopped about a quarter of an inch into my palm.... ![[Linked Image]](http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/CharlieB401/S7304320_zpskj3ufisw.jpg) Guess that's what I get for not having that OSHA bitch in her pink hard hat hanging around with her notebook telling what to do...... 
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As painful as that must be, thank The Good Lord you did not sever a tendon, ligament, or nerve.
Heal quickly!!
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Ouch  , Hope you heal up soon......
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As painful as that must be, thank The Good Lord you did not sever a tendon, ligament, or nerve.
Heal quickly!! Yea....a half inch one way and it would have hit bone...or something worse.... Course...a half inch the other way and it would have missed me entirely.... You take the good with the bad eh....
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hey, I got that T-shirt, too..... ![[Linked Image]](http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/huntsman22/IMG_1819.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/huntsman22/IMG_1820.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/huntsman22/IMG_1821.jpg) at least I took pics BEFORE yanking it out......grin
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Yea but I don't carry a camera around my neck all day either.... 
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My camera is in my boot, the phone is on my neck. I can't hear it ring, if I carry it in the other boot.....
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Field, do you guys have Halstead nails out there? Their boxes used to come with a hilarious safety warning on one side of the box...... ![[Linked Image]](http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/huntsman22/hunt052.jpg)
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were any 'words unbecoming a professional' uttered?
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Hey! Did yall put any coal oil on them wounds???
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"There's more to optics than meets the eye."--anon
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My camera is in my boot, the phone is on my neck. I can't hear it ring, if I carry it in the other boot..... Fair enough....if I owned a cell phone that's where I'd carry it too..... were any 'words unbecoming a professional' uttered? I've never seen that brand but I'd buy em just because the "supplemental warning"....that's priceless......someone has a sense of humor.....
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Hey! Did yall put any coal oil on them wounds??? I was out of coal oil but I figured that sweat and bugger saturated bandanna I wrapped around it should have killed most anything I needed to worry about..... PS....16 penny exit wounds ain't near as bad as one might think.....hardly any expansion at all.....
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But over penetration is paramount, correct???
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FG and huntsman, those things don't happen nearly as often when one uses a framing hammer Geno PS, but then again, I've been accused of being a Luddite.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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That has to hurt! Anything that drives nails will make you cuss! 
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Can't help but think you guys were doing something you shouldn't have been doing, and were actually warned not to do.
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FG and huntsman, those things don't happen nearly as often when one uses a framing hammer Geno PS, but then again, I've been accused of being a Luddite. I know all about hammers Geno......when I was a pup just breaking in I worked on a joisting crew for a big multi-family builder...we were issued a 50# keg of sinkers every morning and if you couldn't drive em all in a day (not drop em, drive em) you went back to packing lumber until you could.... I've not only framed literally hundreds of houses by hand....but there was also the quality time I spent hand nailing floor sheathing with 16 galvies for my old man while he sat on the tail gate and drank beer... I wake up at least once every night with a throbbing right arm due to my years swinging a rigging axe before nail guns were invented..... BTW....a new framing hammer with nice sharp corrigation can peel a bacon sized chunk of skin off your thumb or fore finger that hurts worse and takes A LOT longer to heal than this does..... I'm sure Don will confirm that theory......
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Hey! Did yall put any coal oil on them wounds??? Coal oil is your friend!
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confirmation..... The best thing a guy can do with a new waffle-faced rigger, is drive a buncha rebar stakes to take the 'sharp' outta it.......
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FG and huntsman, those things don't happen nearly as often when one uses a framing hammer Geno PS, but then again, I've been accused of being a Luddite. I know all about hammers Geno......when I was a pup just breaking in I worked on a joisting crew for a big multi-family builder...we were issued a 50# keg of sinkers every morning and if you couldn't drive em all in a day (not drop em, drive em) you went back to packing lumber until you could.... I've not only framed literally hundreds of houses by hand....but there was also the quality time I spent hand nailing floor sheathing with 16 galvies for my old man while he sat on the tail gate and drank beer... I wake up at least once every night with a throbbing right arm due to my years swinging a rigging axe before nail guns were invented..... BTW....a new framing hammer with nice sharp corrigation can peel a bacon sized chunk of skin off your thumb or fore finger that hurts worse and takes A LOT longer to heal than this does.....I'm sure Don will confirm that theory...... Ask me how I know this is a fact!  I figured you two knew what a hammer or axe was and how to use it. (old guys like us do, hand saws and planes too) I never worked in the industry like you did, for as long or on those type of jobs (my little brother does, drives the "bone" now lifting s--t for the guys). I did some part time work, pick up stuff for my friends in the industry, helped folks with big projects, and such when I needed to find work (do folks still do that?). Boy, I can think of some jobs a nailer would have been a blessing. (Dang short roofing nails!) But I was never so lucky. Don, I'll take that rebar trick under advisement, sounds like a workable solution. You guys quit pokin' holes in yer hands now, ya' hear. Go poke holes in critters. Geno PS, all that nighttime hurt in my hands and back comes from years lifting baking pans full of bread/buns off a production line. Base of my thumbs are shot, as the nurse put it, from use, use, use.
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In it is contentment
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confirmation..... The best thing a guy can do with a new waffle-faced rigger, is drive a buncha rebar stakes to take the 'sharp' outta it....... Yea....we used to flatten em down a tich too...not so much that they wouldn't "grip" mind you..... Here's another old trick from those who carpentered back before they had disposable carbide saw blades.....Don probably know this one too....when our last blade got dull we'd turn em around backwards in the saw and run em in a sand pile for minute or so.....it wasn't like a fresh blade but it would get ya by until the end of the day most times.... Ah...the good ol days before cordless tools...carbide blades...and nail guns.........yea right.... 
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Ask me how I know this is a fact! I figured you two knew what a hammer or axe was and how to use it. (old guys like us do, hand saws and planes too) I never worked in the industry like you did, for as long or on those type of jobs (my little brother does, drives the "bone" now lifting s--t for the guys). I did some part time work, pick up stuff for my friends in the industry, helped folks with big projects, and such when I needed to find work (do folks still do that?). Boy, I can think of some jobs a nailer would have been a blessing. (Dang short roofing nails!) But I was never so lucky. Don, I'll take that rebar trick under advisement, sounds like a workable solution. You guys quit pokin' holes in yer hands now, ya' hear. Go poke holes in critters. Geno PS, all that nighttime hurt in my hands and back comes from years lifting baking pans full of bread/buns off a production line. Base of my thumbs are shot, as the nurse put it, from use, use, use. I know that's true.....a good friend went to work for a big commercial bakery over in San Leandro CA shortly after we graduated....it weren't no work for sissies....and he was a big boy....
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Your lucky you didn't pin yourself to the rafter tail while hanging off the ladder in that precarious position. That would have really sucked! You'd have been half crucified.
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I shot my self through the palm of my hand, and "toe nailed" my palm to my wrist, using a 2 1/2" glue coated casing nail. Couldn't grab it with a pair of pliers.
Got my median nerve. Was about a year before I got the feeling back to my fingertips.
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And yes, a brand new 32 oz framing hammer will peel some serious flesh, to the bone.
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A "pro" may not hit his fingers as often, but when he does, it will be a damn sight harder.
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A "pro" may not hit his fingers as often, but when he does, it will be a damn sight harder.
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I really don't miss not always having black fingernails, either.....
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Ask me how I know this is a fact! I figured you two knew what a hammer or axe was and how to use it. (old guys like us do, hand saws and planes too) I never worked in the industry like you did, for as long or on those type of jobs (my little brother does, drives the "bone" now lifting s--t for the guys). I did some part time work, pick up stuff for my friends in the industry, helped folks with big projects, and such when I needed to find work (do folks still do that?). Boy, I can think of some jobs a nailer would have been a blessing. (Dang short roofing nails!) But I was never so lucky. Don, I'll take that rebar trick under advisement, sounds like a workable solution. You guys quit pokin' holes in yer hands now, ya' hear. Go poke holes in critters. Geno PS, all that nighttime hurt in my hands and back comes from years lifting baking pans full of bread/buns off a production line. Base of my thumbs are shot, as the nurse put it, from use, use, use. I know that's true.....a good friend went to work for a big commercial bakery over in San Leandro CA shortly after we graduated....it weren't no work for sissies....and he was a big boy.... Size didn't matter, toughness did, along with work ethic. We had guys start work, stay 2 hrs until the first smoke break, walk out for a smoke, and never come back. Didn't even come back for their 2 hrs worth of paycheck and it was good money back then. But, I can say the same about a bunch of framers, concrete guys, and roofers too! Hope the hand is still healing nicely. Geno
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We had guys start work, stay 2 hrs until the first smoke break, walk out for a smoke, and never come back. Didn't even come back for their 2 hrs worth of paycheck and it was good money back then.
But, I can say the same about a bunch of framers, concrete guys, and roofers too!
Geno True that^^^^^^.....reminds me of one particular job that I was running a big pre-fab yard on....it was a HUD project so we had to hire just about anyone that walked up and asked....well one morning I put this meek mild young fellow to work knowing that he probably wouldn't make it and sure enough about two hours in he shuffled over to me and very politely said "excuse me sir but who would I see about quitting....I kinda felt sorry for him but I just shook my head and said "see yourself"....
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How's the hand healing up today? Well I hope.
New pictures?
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thats a coated sinker. were it a galvanized 16d, you'd had some fun pulling that sucker.
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We had guys start work, stay 2 hrs until the first smoke break, walk out for a smoke, and never come back. Didn't even come back for their 2 hrs worth of paycheck and it was good money back then.
But, I can say the same about a bunch of framers, concrete guys, and roofers too!
Geno True that^^^^^^.....reminds me of one particular job that I was running a big pre-fab yard on....it was a HUD project so we had to hire just about anyone that walked up and asked....well one morning I put this meek mild young fellow to work knowing that he probably wouldn't make it and sure enough about two hours in he shuffled over to me and very politely said "excuse me sir but who would I see about quitting....I kinda felt sorry for him but I just shook my head and said "see yourself".... Charlie, great lesson. And damn man, be careful with that frikken nail gun!
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Man, that makes my hand hurt just looking at it! Glad there's not much damage, opposable thumbs are the only thing that separate us from the rest of our critters.  Just think if you had a "full auto" switch on that bad boy. Hope it heals up soon! Ed
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Glad there's not much damage, opposable thumbs are the only thing that separate us from the rest of our critters. LOL......No chit....with my IQ I'd be in deep do do without that opposable thumb thing......
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We had guys start work, stay 2 hrs until the first smoke break, walk out for a smoke, and never come back. Didn't even come back for their 2 hrs worth of paycheck and it was good money back then.
But, I can say the same about a bunch of framers, concrete guys, and roofers too!
Geno True that^^^^^^.....reminds me of one particular job that I was running a big pre-fab yard on....it was a HUD project so we had to hire just about anyone that walked up and asked....well one morning I put this meek mild young fellow to work knowing that he probably wouldn't make it and sure enough about two hours in he shuffled over to me and very politely said "excuse me sir but who would I see about quitting....I kinda felt sorry for him but I just shook my head and said "see yourself".... Charlie, great lesson. And damn man, be careful with that frikken nail gun! No worries Sam.....just a flesh wound....hell it's almost heeled up already.....
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confirmation..... The best thing a guy can do with a new waffle-faced rigger, is drive a buncha rebar stakes to take the 'sharp' outta it....... Yea....we used to flatten em down a tich too...not so much that they wouldn't "grip" mind you..... Here's another old trick from those who carpentered back before they had disposable carbide saw blades.....Don probably know this one too....when our last blade got dull we'd turn em around backwards in the saw and run em in a sand pile for minute or so.....it wasn't like a fresh blade but it would get ya by until the end of the day most times.... Ah...the good ol days before cordless tools...carbide blades...and nail guns.........yea right.... Those damn things can peel a thumb like an orange. Don't ask me how I know....
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Those damn things can peel a thumb like an orange. Don't ask me how I know.... I don't have to ask.....I know how you know.....and I've got the scar tissue to prove it....
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Now that was funny, Don!!!! 
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