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It's going to be a sad state of affairs for many, many people if things happen to force us to fend for ourselves again...

They can't even change a flat tire.

They will die like flies.


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So what was the paintbrush for?


To dust off the gold fish of course!


Hell no !!! Paint brushes are for BBQ sauce on chikken n brisket. When ya get done with it wash it out in the sink and go paint the bathroom.

When I got pushed out into the cold hard reality of life it quickly became apparent that "no workey" meant "no eaty"

Its really a simple concept.


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I don't know what Gen I am, but I was born in the early 80s. My dad was too busy carting his kids to whatever activity they wanted to do and taking me hunting and fishing to fool with much DIY stuff. I can't thank him enough for it. I watch a lot of YouTube videos to figure [bleep] out.

Dad did teach me that some people just look for stuff to bitch about.

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Originally Posted by turkish
I don't know what Gen I am, but I was born in the early 80s. My dad was too busy carting his kids to whatever activity they wanted to do and taking me hunting and fishing to fool with much DIY stuff. I can't thank him enough for it. I watch a lot of YouTube videos to figure [bleep] out.

Dad did teach me that some people just look for stuff to bitch about.


I'm stuck in the middle too. Born in 85. I think we are technically Gen Y, but I don't know. I think ones actions can be defining as well as birthdate.

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Originally Posted by turkish
I don't know what Gen I am, but I was born in the early 80s. My dad was too busy carting his kids to whatever activity they wanted to do and taking me hunting and fishing to fool with much DIY stuff. I can't thank him enough for it. I watch a lot of YouTube videos to figure [bleep] out.

Dad did teach me that some people just look for stuff to bitch about.


Dad took you hunting and fishing. You probably turned out just fine. If you can clean a fish and gut a deer, fixing a dryer vent won't intimidate you. I bet you went to school with the type of which we speak?


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All the old guys think young dudes are pussies. Just the way it is.

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If all these guys are such pussies, who is kicking ass in the Sandbox?

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GenXChick-I'm going to get a paintbrush.

GenXDude-Why are you going to get a paintbrush?

GenXChick (whispering)-I'm not. But that creepy old white guy over there is staring at us and listening to everything we say. Let's get out of here.

Hatari-GenX'ers are dumb.


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Originally Posted by hatari


I was there to get a toilet rebuilt kit. Simple enough to change out the old innards in the tank. Takes all of ten minutes. While I'm grabbing the kit, a couple in there late twenties is in the same aisle and discussing their project that somehow involved a paint brush. The dominant female was telling the Metro male she was going back to get paint brush in the paint department. He seemed confused. "You're going to buy a paint brush?" "Yes, I need a paint brush." Simple enough, but the dude had that same look and sound of uncertainty as my wife when tell her things like "the crank sensor went out on your car" or "our son's online gaming is eating all of our bandwidth". It is the look of someone who really doesn't grasp the situation well enough to understand it.



Funny that you should mention the crank sensor example. I recently told my wife I had to buy one to get a Jeep started after it had been sitting a while. She actually listened and then crawled underneath the Jeep and helped change it out. It really helped when the thing finally fired up and she got to see the results.


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Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by turkish
I don't know what Gen I am, but I was born in the early 80s. My dad was too busy carting his kids to whatever activity they wanted to do and taking me hunting and fishing to fool with much DIY stuff. I can't thank him enough for it. I watch a lot of YouTube videos to figure [bleep] out.

Dad did teach me that some people just look for stuff to bitch about.


Dad took you hunting and fishing. You probably turned out just fine. If you can clean a fish and gut a deer, fixing a dryer vent won't intimidate you. I bet you went to school with the type of which we speak?


I can do all that and my parents do any of it. At 14 I was bringing home rabbits and fish ready fore the stove. I learned to reload with Lee hand dies ant they had no clue.

If a kid today wants to know more than the nearest mall than they have a lot more resources than I did.


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Born in 1979, but grew up in Spain (hardcore Right then) and Peru... There was no PC bullsheit there, now it is a little more for show, but still not to the craziness here.
My father is an intelectual, but did a lot of manual work at home, and praised effort above anything.
We didn't lack or need anything at home, but nothing was given freely.
I fished from what my grandmother taught me, and hunted as I grew older, all on my own. My father is not opposed to it, just not attracted to it.

Anyway, to the point, a very macho friend of mine wrote a very machodriven essay in highschool (private british school in Peru, creme de la creme, very liberal in which we could freely speak our minds, but respectfully. Also a tough disciplinary system, which may or may not have included physical punishment sometimes crazy ).
The essay said something that children should be raised by women while men work. Our literature teacher reamed him, very politely but firmly, explaining that children become puzzies if they only see the mother. They need a manly figure to grow up to and emulate, to learn from.

That is what is lacking in these generations, manly figures, fear or being assertive so not to offend, and bending over because it is PC. I praise effort and initiative in my kids... We live in the city, but still find ways to get muddy, scrape their knees catch fish and shoot.




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Originally Posted by Pahntr760
Originally Posted by turkish
I don't know what Gen I am, but I was born in the early 80s. My dad was too busy carting his kids to whatever activity they wanted to do and taking me hunting and fishing to fool with much DIY stuff. I can't thank him enough for it. I watch a lot of YouTube videos to figure [bleep] out.

Dad did teach me that some people just look for stuff to bitch about.


I'm stuck in the middle too. Born in 85. I think we are technically Gen Y, but I don't know. I think ones actions can be defining as well as birthdate.


Always assumed I was the tail end of the baby boom(born 61) so I looked up the definition.
Seems there is no consensus for starting and ending dates for each generation.
Found this on wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation#Social_generation
Western world

For the purposes of this list, "Western world" can be taken to mean North America, Europe, South America, and Oceania. However, it should also be noted that many variations may exist within the regions, both geographically and culturally, which mean that the list is broadly indicative, but necessarily very general. For details see the individual articles.

The Lost Generation, also known as the Generation of 1914 in Europe,[23] is a term originating with Gertrude Stein to describe those who fought in World War I. The members of the lost generation were typically born between 1883 and 1900.

The Greatest Generation, also known as the G.I. Generation, is the generation that includes the veterans who fought in World War II. They were born from around 1900 through 1924, coming of age during the Great Depression. Journalist Tom Brokaw dubbed this the Greatest Generation in a book of the same name.[24]

The Silent Generation, also known as the Lucky Few, were born from approximately 1925 until 1942.[25] It includes some who fought in World War II, most of those who fought the Korean War and many during the Vietnam War.

The Baby Boomers are the generation that was born following World War II, generally from 1946-1964,[26][27][28] a time that was marked by an increase in birth rates.[29] The term "baby boomer" is sometimes used in a cultural context. Therefore, it is impossible to achieve broad consensus on a defined start and end date.[30] The baby boom has been described variously as a "shockwave"[31] and as "the pig in the python".[32] In general, baby boomers are associated with a rejection or redefinition of traditional values; however, many commentators have disputed the extent of that rejection, noting the widespread continuity of values with older and younger generations. In Europe and North America boomers are widely associated with privilege, as many grew up in a time of affluence.[33] One of the features of Boomers was that they tended to think of themselves as a special generation, very different from those that had come before them. In the 1960s, as the relatively large numbers of young people became teenagers and young adults, they, and those around them, created a very specific rhetoric around their cohort, and the change they were bringing about.[34] This generation is also referred to as the Me Generation, and the latter portion of the Baby Boomer generation as Generation Jones.

Generation X, commonly abbreviated to Gen X, is the generation born after the Western Post–World War II baby boom. Demographers, historians and commentators use birth dates ranging from the early 1960s to the early 1980s.[35][36][37] The term has also been used in different times and places for a number of different subcultures or countercultures since the 1950s.

Millennials, also known as the Millennial Generation,[38] or Generation Y, is the demographic cohort following Generation X. Commentators use birth dates ranging from the early 1980s to around 2000.[39][40][41]

Generation Z, also known as the "Homeland Generation"', is the cohort of people born after the Millennials. The generation is most commonly defined with birth years starting in the mid-1990s[42][43][44][38][45] although the early[46] or late 1990s[47][48] and early 2000s[49] have also been used as starting birth years for this generation.

The name Generation Alpha has been suggested for the generation following Generation Z.[50][51]


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
GenXChick-I'm going to get a paintbrush.

GenXDude-Why are you going to get a paintbrush?

GenXChick (whispering)-I'm not. But that creepy old white guy over there is staring at us and listening to everything we say. Let's get out of here.

Hatari-GenX'ers are dumb.


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Originally Posted by Scott F
...At 14 I was bringing home rabbits and fish ready fore the stove...


But we lived in a country, and we went to schools, that were not run by a government infiltrated by socialists and communists.


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Originally Posted by pal
Originally Posted by Scott F
...At 14 I was bringing home rabbits and fish ready fore the stove...


But we lived in a country, and we went to schools, that were not run by a government infiltrated by socialists and communists.
Schools are a reflection of the communities they are in. If they are not, that in itself is a reflection on those communities. Communities elect the school board and the school board hires the Superintendent. Everything flows down from there. An argument can be made that the uppermost offices, like President and the Senate, are actually selected rather than elected. It's a whole lot harder to make that argument about local elections like school boards. Communities get the schools they choose.

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I had a grandson over the last few days, he is around 30 now. Mother has had over 7marriages or so. He has a productive job, a girl friend he will probably marry, and a good kid. He ordered wood, paint, etc. to redo a utility trailer i have. Keep in mind it's been around 114in the shade. He wasn't really familar with a power drill, and stuff, but was picking it up. By asociation over several years now he has changed from a person who voted for the first zero the first time around, to someone that doesn't understand or relate to the "progressive" party at all. I have now properly infected a number of the grandkids to look at the world properly, one which you make it in yourself. There is hope for the future. His brother helped me dig by shovel and five gallon buckets a ten by 15 by 7feet deep hole all by hand, in the arizona summer heat. Couple of times both these boys were close to heat exhaustion but i never heard them complain.
I told this one last night he was one of the winners out of the gene pool, and i know after i am gone he will make it.
My father had a similar discussion with me.


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Most all of this could be cured via a 1 yr mandatory stint in the military upon graduating from high school.

Then, again, it would most probably just increase the high school drop out rate.


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Originally Posted by Calvin
I see soft men in all generations. Obesity is such a giant issue with men that it's effecting all generations.

Video games are the killer of teenage males, IMO. Couple that with a sugar addiction and they are rendered almost useless. Pretty sad, IMO. Many adult males who grew up that way are also pretty useless.


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
They're a product of their upbringing.

The older generation sure likes to condemn these metrosexual kids with no idea of how to be a man. But they're not so quick to condemn themselves for being too self absorbed to spend time with their kids, or condemn themselves and their friends for being philandering husbands that can't keep a marriage together.


From what I have seen around here young lads (and lass') are doing everything they can to do boy things...they jump at the chance, even the mummy boys can't wait to cut the apron strings.

Yes we do have our lazy crooked good-for-nothings, but they are what they are no matter how they are raised.


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I agree with Bluedreaux.

So many kids have had their whole lives uprooted and everything they had known was ripped apart. Kids need a stable and solid life AND parents...and so many of them have been dragged through so much $ch!t and disaster and drama that they had no control over...ALL for selfish reasons of their parents.
If we don't intentionally give our kids what we should...then we will accidentally and unintentionally give them what we shouldn't. Wherever family identity is strong, peer pressure is gonna be weak...but wherever family identity is weak, peer pressure is gonna be strong. Family stability is predictive of children's well-being.
And the parents minimize the effect that their selfish actions have on their kids. Parents can be some pretty selfish mofo's...!



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