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I am really interested in knowing what others have for their SHTF rifle(s) and the reasons for their choices. Obviously, different factors will be more important to different people: Rural vs.Urban, Zombies vs. Rioters or a Tyrannical Govt., Real, Perceived or Imagined Threat Matrices, etc.
At the end of the day, I don’t think there any “right” or “wrong” answers . Just the fact that you thought about it and made a decision or a choice … is a big deal! I just think it would be informative and instructive to know what others have chosen / decided and their reasons. (Hopefully, this will not evolve into a “My Evil Black Rifle is Better Than Your Evil Black Rifle” discussion.)
OK. With that in mind, I’ll go first (but not necessarily in relative order):
1.PTR 91 KF .308: This is my EBR. Supposedly it is one of the better H&K 91 clones that is supposedly made on original H&K tooling. I have mine customized with a PWS muzzle compensator, XS front /rear Trijicon night sights, ambi safety, port buffer, heavy recoil buffer, Magpul “Tacticool” Adjustable Stock, and a Brugger & Thomet low profile rail. I use it with 2 scopes: a Burris Eliminator III 3-12 x 44 and a Leupold VX-R 3-9x40.
Pros:
A.Being .308 it does have a lot “oomph.” B.Battle-tested H&K delayed roller block action. C.Will happily eat just about any type of .308/7.62x51 ammo. D.Wide range of ammo available. E.Nearly indestructible: “Takes A Lickin’ And Keeps On Tickin.’” F.Good choice of Mil. Surp. and after-market parts. Cheap mags. G.Relatively easy to field strip and clean. H.Good knowledge base / on-line forums, etc. I.With good match grade ammo and the Burris Eliminator, can easily reach out and touch someone out to 300-400 yards (or more).
Cons:
A.Heavy as hell … weighs 10+ pounds. B.Mangles brass … the port buffer helps if you want to reload. C.Without a port buffer, brass is ejected to the next county. D.Action remains closed after last shot.
2.H&K SLB 2000: .30-06: This actually a hunting rifle and not an EBR or assault rifle. It is a gas operated semi-automatic, based upon H&K’s battle tested designs. (Not a lot of .30-06 semi autos.) Super smooth action, fast cycling, and comes with a 10 round magazine. The stock is wood, barrel is about 19” and it weighs in just slightly over 7 pounds. A sweet little semi auto .30-06 carbine. Somewhat rare in the US. Imported only for a year or so. Still sold in Germany by Merkel and Haenel (under license from H&K.) Mine has a factory Picatinny rail and I have installed a “Bump Buster” hydraulic recoil system from Ken Rucker. I use it with 2 scopes: a Burris Eliminator III 3-12 x 44 and a Leupold VX-R 3-9x40.
Pros:
A.While not a sniper rifle, it is extremely accurate for light carbine. B.Like the .308, will happily eat just about any type of .30-06 ammo (including “Black Tip” or AP ammo … shooting AP ammo out of it makes it a light weight STOPPING MACHINE.) C.Obviously .30-06 ammo is readily available just about any place, and has a lot of “oomph.” D.Relatively easy to field strip and clean. J.Like the PTR, with good match grade ammo and the Burris Eliminator, can easily reach out and touch someone out to 300-400 yards (or more). E.Doesn’t look like an EBR or assault rifle.
Cons:
A.Magazines are extremely expensive (over $200.00 for a 10 rounder) and hard to find. B.Factory parts are available (if you know where to look … from basically 1 source) but forget after-market parts. C.So few were imported, no real knowledge base or on-line forums for info.
OK, who’s next?
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My 870.
If the SHTF I'll take out the magazine plug.
Call of Duty servers down today?
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RRA operator. aim point micro. Back up irons, and a weapon light
Bunch of 30 round magazines
But SHTF has lots of scenarios and one gun really doesn't cover it.
A 22 rimfire, scoped, would be a good addition
Of them I have more than enough
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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Saw a good price on a DSA FAL this past weekend. Debating whether or not to jump on it.
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If the [bleep] hit the fan, my ass will be up [bleep]'s creek anyway. Without my meds I don't know how long I would last, and the pharmacies would be among the first places hit by the looters. Being a gimpy 63 year old there isn't much chance of me hiking 100+ miles to sanctuary, especially if I gotta tote a rifle and back pack. I'll just hunker down and shoot trespassers until one of them gets me I guess. For that, any old rifle will do but I have a 20" AR nonetheless.
Isn't it better to work toward a solution than to prep for apocalypse?
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If the [bleep] hit the fan, my ass will be up [bleep]'s creek anyway. Without my meds I don't know how long I would last, and the pharmacies would be among the first places hit by the looters. Being a gimpy 63 year old there isn't much chance of me hiking 100+ miles to sanctuary, especially if I gotta tote a rifle and back pack. I'll just hunker down and shoot trespassers until one of them gets me I guess. For that, any old rifle will do but I have a 20" AR nonetheless.
Isn't it better to work toward a solution than to prep for apocalypse? Shtf is not a single plane sceMario It doesn't mean simply and solely "the appocolypse" It could mean something tempray as in the Ferguson riots Or civil unrest due to natural disasters as we saw during katrina
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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KAC SR-15 E3 MOD 2, w/ T2 Micro.
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Isn't it better to work toward a solution than to prep for apocalypse? Of course, it is. However, the parties involved seem to get further away rather than closer and push more radical agenda's consistently, making work meaningless, and solutions impossible.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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94 winchester 870 rem colt 1911 with a kimber 22 conversion for small stuff.
this is my go to group.
the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Daisy red Ryder .177 240 ft./s muzzle velocity, effective range over 9m, you're screwed!
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Daisy red Ryder .177 240 ft./s muzzle velocity, effective range over 9m, you're screwed! Yeah, that will cover most things, but what about those................................................................................................................zombies?
Let's Go Brandon! FJB
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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What ever one I have the most ammo for, either a 308 or 223.
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Isn't it better to work toward a solution than to prep for apocalypse? How would you have worked toward a solution to Katrina? Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Isn't it better to work toward a solution than to prep for apocalypse? How would you have worked toward a solution to Katrina? Dave Stop global warming...oh I crack myself up!!!
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Isn't it better to work toward a solution than to prep for apocalypse? How would you have worked toward a solution to Katrina? Dave Start by not building 8' below sea level. food, water, meds on hand. read sign and get out before the hurricane. Katrina was pure bad planning from the start. Now what if you happen to be the second or third car behind a BLM roadblock and they decide to make an example out of you? SHTF can happen anywhere, anytime but you can still be prepared.
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Start by not building 8' below sea level. food, water, meds on hand.
Ok. I'll go take a gander at the dykes that prevent my town from flooding and if they don't meet code I'll work toward having them redone. But in the meantime, I gots an AR on hot standby. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Isn't it better to work toward a solution than to prep for apocalypse? How would you have worked toward a solution to Katrina? Dave Empty shell casings and glowing red barrel on the 6920 wouldve been a good start.
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Start by not building 8' below sea level. food, water, meds on hand.
Ok. I'll go take a gander at the dykes that prevent my town from flooding and if they don't meet code I'll work toward having them redone. But in the meantime, I gots an AR on hot standby. Dave You got Hillary and her friends preventing your town from flooding? That'll put a whole new meaning to sticking your finger in the dike.
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