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Any American working towards secession is helping the communists weaken our country.
United we stand. Divided we fall.
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Any American working towards secession is helping the communists weaken our country.
United we stand. Divided we fall. If I lived in California, I might say that too. For the rest of us, not so much.
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So your thought process tells you that if your "Team" can't win you should start to consider secession for your state? Does your state have the ability to operate as a nation? In other words do yo have everything you need within your "Nation-State" to function as a Nation? You sound like a 4th grader who was not picked to play kickball at lunch time.
I have said this for the past 8 years...Start running a candidate that can win not just appeal to the small slice of America called "Conservative" Your party is aging out and you have nothing to offer younger non-white voters.
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Nice theoretical discussion, like "... How Many Angels Can Dance On the Head Of A Pin ..." No matter how many say they are ready to leave ... at the end of the day there would never be enough to see it through. And ... as stated above ... Big Brother in Washington would not sit idly by ... there would be a fight. Sort of "... been there ... done that already ..." and it didn't work too well for a lot of folks. What might work is this: A Convention of States under Article V. of the Constitution. See: http://www.conventionofstates.com/ THIS /\ /\ /\ /\
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Don't delude yourself into thinking anyone will secede.
The only reaction will be (more) incessant whining on the internet.
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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Yes, my state has everything it needs to function as a nation with an area bigger than France and a population almost as large as Canada.
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If the Soviet Union can break apart more or less peacefully, anything can happen. I'm pretty sure ours will be more like Yugoslavia though. There is some serious bad blood building. Let it simmer for another twenty years or so. There are no doubt some folks in Chechnya, Georgia, and Ukraine who would take issue with your statement...
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Yeah, you're probably right Clark.
Guess I'll just go to Montana....
Boundaries/borders don't matter in 4th Generation conflicts. But you're welcome to stay at my place regardless. Clark
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Yes, my state has everything it needs to function as a nation No. It doesn't. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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If the Soviet Union can break apart more or less peacefully, anything can happen. I'm pretty sure ours will be more like Yugoslavia though. There is some serious bad blood building. Let it simmer for another twenty years or so. There are no doubt some folks in Chechnya, Georgia, and Ukraine who would take issue with your statement... Chechens are Jihadies. Georgia and Ukraine have had disgreements with Russia as independent nations.
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Yes, my state has everything it needs to function as a nation No. It doesn't. Dave Absolutely it does. Oil, gas, timber, farm land, and international ports.
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Yeah, you're probably right Clark.
Guess I'll just go to Montana....
Boundaries/borders don't matter in 4th Generation conflicts. But you're welcome to stay at my place regardless. Clark Thank you sir.
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Yes, my state has everything it needs to function as a nation No. It doesn't. Dave Absolutely it does. Oil, gas, timber, farm land, and international ports. It doesn't have national sovereignty, and never will. Forget the pipe dreams and stop wasting your energy on fantasy.
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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Forget the pipe dreams and stop wasting your energy on fantasy. Examples include Trump ever being elected!
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Absolutely it does. Oil, gas, timber, farm land, and international ports.
You got a fugkin' navy and an air force? Because you're gonna need it. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Any American working towards secession is helping the communists weaken our country.
United we stand. Divided we fall. If I lived in California, I might say that too. For the rest of us, not so much. Ha!!! If you think geography is the enemy, half the battle is already lost..here a chip....there a chip....every where a chip chip....old McDonald HAD a farm....eee...iii...eee...iii...oooo.
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Yes, my state has everything it needs to function as a nation No. It doesn't. Dave Absolutely it does. Oil, gas, timber, farm land, and international ports. It doesn't have national sovereignty, and never will. Forget the pipe dreams and stop wasting your energy on fantasy. Forget your constitution? The states are sovereign. They are not subsidiaries of the national governments nor creatures of it.
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Forget the pipe dreams and stop wasting your energy on fantasy. Examples include Trump ever being elected! Your fantasies all include COCK! And lots of it! Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Yes, my state has everything it needs to function as a nation No. It doesn't. Dave Absolutely it does. Oil, gas, timber, farm land, and international ports. It doesn't have national sovereignty, and never will. Forget the pipe dreams and stop wasting your energy on fantasy. Forget your constitution? The states are sovereign. They are not subsidiaries of the national governments nor creatures of it. You keep thinking that if it makes you feel good.
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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Forget the pipe dreams and stop wasting your energy on fantasy.
Forget your constitution? The states are sovereign. They are not subsidiaries of the national governments nor creatures of it. Didn't you say the other day that the Constitution was irrelevant now? Or do you just make bullshit statements at any given time to support your bullshit? found it:
You can talk about the Constitution but most haven't read it and many don't agree with it. We are truly post Constitutional. The constitution does not serve as a serious barrier to government action. We may as well accept that and move forward with someone who can advance the ball towards our goal.
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