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Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. bigwhoop #11337654 07/28/16
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Stevil Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 782	dead right Snyper lookin at all the whiny whingers !!

Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. bigwhoop #11337680 07/28/16
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benchman Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,900	At least he didn't use his OWN money. That would be a waste. What a strange thing, to blame a tool. Just a lump of metal. It is certainly a lot easier than healing men's hearts, so they don't kill each other with no thought or remorse. I thought his type leaned toward heart and mind repair. He should buy a bunch of forks up, to fight obesity.

Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. Snyper #11337684 07/28/16
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JSTUART Campfire Ranger J Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s...	Originally Posted by Snyper He won the rifle. He can do anything he wants with it. Ya'll are all about "rights" and "freedom" until someone does something you don't like. This is the answer. These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.

Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. JSTUART #11337689 07/28/16
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benchman Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,900	Originally Posted by JSTUART Originally Posted by Snyper He won the rifle. He can do anything he wants with it. Ya'll are all about "rights" and "freedom" until someone does something you don't like. This is the answer. Except he is using other people's money without asking their consent, to prove his point.

Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. benchman #11337694 07/28/16
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JSTUART Campfire Ranger J Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s...	Then it is up to his church to bitch at him, and since he is still there one would have to think they were fine with his decision. These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.

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Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. bigwhoop #11337731 07/28/16
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RickyD Campfire 'Bwana R Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 46,965 Iowa	Just lieberals being lieberals. We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth? Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.

Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. efw #11337748 07/28/16
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IndyCA35 Campfire Outfitter I Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 11,502 The North Coast	Let's outlaw feet in church. the FBI statistics show show more murders use feet for a weapon than use rifles, including AR-15s. Don't blame me. I voted for Trump. Democrats would burn this country to the ground, if they could rule over the ashes.

Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. Snyper #11337789 07/28/16
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Rock Chuck Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 69,376 Likes: 2 Filer, ID	Originally Posted by Snyper He won the rifle. He can do anything he wants with it. Ya'll are all about "rights" and "freedom" until someone does something you don't like. He won it with the church's money, not his own. It belongs to the church. The people didn't give their money to enrich him. If he had used his own money, he would be free to do whatever he wanted with the rifle. “In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.

Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. Rock Chuck #11337798 07/28/16
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pointer Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,655 Indiana	Originally Posted by Rock Chuck Originally Posted by Snyper He won the rifle. He can do anything he wants with it. Ya'll are all about "rights" and "freedom" until someone does something you don't like. He won it with the church's money, not his own. It belongs to the church. The people didn't give their money to enrich him. If he had used his own money, he would be free to do whatever he wanted with the rifle. I'm guessing he has more than a touch of liberty in how to use the church's "discretionary funds"... For multiple reasons IDGAF.

Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. bigwhoop #11337822 07/28/16
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,689 Likes: 15 USA	Originally Posted by bigwhoop Might be a misuse of church funds here. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/28/reverend-wins-rifle-and-wants-it-destroyed.html Reminds one of the primitive practice of burning a tree down if one of its branches fell and killed a member of the community. Punish an inanimate object.

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Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. bigwhoop #11338780 07/29/16
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oldtrapper Campfire Ranger O Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 15,638 North Flint Hills	Saw a retired pastor from our church at DQ this last week. He showed me a holster he made from a PVC drain pipe, for the 9mm he was packing. Never met an LCMS pastor that didn't pack or at least encourage it. https://postimg.cc/xXjW1cqx/81efa4c5 Soli Deo Gloria democrats ARE the plague.

Re: Pastor uses church funds in AR-15 raffle. He wins and will destroy it. Rock Chuck #11338853 07/29/16
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victoro Campfire Tracker V Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 5,181 Texas	Originally Posted by Rock Chuck It's the church's money, the church owns the rifle, not the minister. The board of elders, deacons, or however that church is set up, needs to step in and claim it. If nothing else, they should raffle it off again to raise even more money for the team. Then they need to have a long serious talk with their thieving minister about who discretionary funds belong to. Who owns the church?

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