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Yeah Trump got a boost but he will screw it up. If he would just shut up he can win but no, he keeps spouting off about stuff he knows nothing about. If he just went soft on his rants, or listened to someone in the know before he put his foot in his mouth he can win but his ego won't let him. He's playing right into Hilabeasts and Obongo's hand. I think sometimes he really doesn't want to win. Damn!! I think you are right - some of the stuff he says just makes me shake my head. But he is still much better than the alternative.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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How can Trump make the mistake of saying Tim Kaine is from NJ? He does this too often. Starts to say something and his facts are way off. In my mind, he is only one step above crooked politicians and lawyers. Also, he uses lawyers too much to get his corporations out of hot water. If he is shady in business, he will run the country the same way. I
will not vote for Hillary but might vote for the Libertarian or Green candidate. Still have time to decide. What's the friggin difference? Save a step and vote for Hillary. No need to play mind games in an effort to convince yourself that the outcome has any significant difference. To quote H-Dog, " At this point, what difference does it make...?" The Dems would probably answer, well he could have been from Jersey...  DF
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Here we have a man willing to stand up and vote against the CA liberals, to make a stand and fight and all we do is make fun of him and put him down. Not my thing. In fact I think he is more of a hero.
It is not in me to give up. Sounds like it is not in this man either
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
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Trump had a great opportunity this week to blow up Hitleryand the dog & pony show -- he could have pointed how the battle on the republican side was a true democracy and how the DNC merely selected her and plotted with her campaign and the media to rig her nomination. Instead, he invited Russia to hack Hillary again... He could be up by 20 points if he wasn't such a dooshbag. And in the process got the Clinton campaign to go on record stating that would be a "national security matter" in complete contradiction to what they've been saying. Yep, a real dooshbag, that Trump fellow....
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Trump isn't a conservative or liberal. He is a pragmatist. He wants America to be great again, literally. That explains a lot about him and why some of his ideas have changed over time and why he has gotten more conservative as he ages. Liberal ideas seldom work, so as a pragmatist, he disregards them. On the other hand, as a pragmatist and not a dyed in the wool conservative he is not as quick to completely discount some liberal proposals as some of you would like.
For instance, the idea of an AWB sounded decent to him. After figuring out that it is worthless and accomplishes nothing in the way of crime prevention, he is against it. He is different than the liberal who wants it regardless of the facts and the conservative who is ideologically opposed to it. This analysis has merit.
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Easy mistake to make. Last time I was in NOVA pretty much everyone seemed to be from New Jersey.
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Jersey is a good place to be from.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Well bea175, up till now I respected your comments and loved your dog but your latest comment (or slander) to me has shown you know nothing about those of us in Northern California who are just as conservative as you claim you are. Comments like yours putting down the whole state and all the people in it does more to hurt our cause tha all the liberals put together. If you can get your head out of you know where you might google up the California Rifle and Pistol Assn. website and see what we are trying to do to counter this liberal anti gun BS. It might open up your half closed eyes. Does this rant sound like I'm pissed at your insiuations, you bet it does.
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Well bea175, up till now I respected your comments and loved your dog but your latest comment (or slander) to me has shown you know nothing about those of us in Northern California who are just as conservative as you claim you are. Comments like yours putting down the whole state and all the people in it does more to hurt our cause tha all the liberals put together. If you can get your head out of you know where you might google up the California Rifle and Pistol Assn. website and see what we are trying to do to counter this liberal anti gun BS. It might open up your half closed eyes. Does this rant sound like I'm pissed at your insiuations, you bet it does. It's not our fault you live in a schit hole. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Trump isn't a conservative or liberal. He is a pragmatist. He wants America to be great again, literally. That explains a lot about him and why some of his ideas have changed over time and why he has gotten more conservative as he ages. Liberal ideas seldom work, so as a pragmatist, he disregards them. On the other hand, as a pragmatist and not a dyed in the wool conservative he is not as quick to completely discount some liberal proposals as some of you would like.
For instance, the idea of an AWB sounded decent to him. After figuring out that it is worthless and accomplishes nothing in the way of crime prevention, he is against it. He is different than the liberal who wants it regardless of the facts and the conservative who is ideologically opposed to it. This analysis has merit. Yes it does.
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Well bea175, up till now I respected your comments and loved your dog but your latest comment (or slander) to me has shown you know nothing about those of us in Northern California who are just as conservative as you claim you are. Comments like yours putting down the whole state and all the people in it does more to hurt our cause tha all the liberals put together. If you can get your head out of you know where you might google up the California Rifle and Pistol Assn. website and see what we are trying to do to counter this liberal anti gun BS. It might open up your half closed eyes. Does this rant sound like I'm pissed at your insiuations, you bet it does. Nothing you can say will make California anything but a Liberal Chithole
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Well according to you jerks, I might as well stop donating to pro gun groups and candidates because of the state I live in. My donations and 265,000 members of the CRPA and NRA members don't count? The money generated in California against antigun causes and candidates and is spent for the good of all of us is probably many times more monies than are raised in your states. Thats what is wrong with hunters and fishermen today. Instead of banding together to help for the cause, many are condemned for the state they live in not what they contibute. You might as well condemn the whole West coast if this is your mindset. I am retired but I see fit to donate to candidates in other states that fight for us and I'm not alone in this either.
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We're not condemning you.
You just happen to live in a schit hole.
Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Give the man credit for fighting the SOBs rather than cutting and running.
Lots of good folks in CA. They're just outnumbered by the urban faction like in many other blue states.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
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Give the man credit for fighting the SOBs rather than cutting and running.
Lots of good folks in CA. They're just outnumbered by the urban faction like in many other blue states. Sure, he gets credit for that. He also gets credit for funding the anti-2A agenda of the PRK .gov via his sales tax and property tax contributions. Never seen a PRKer own up to funding their own enemy - yet.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Like so many places he just happens to live where there are big cities and big cities rule the state. Big cities draw liberals. Liberals are the truds that make cesspools what they are.
Portland and Seattle have the votes to rule the entire states even though outside those big cities the rest of the state is conservative.
That leave us two choices, abandon out stares and move somewhere else where we will never be wanted and always be looked down upon or stay and fight.
I will not run and it is not in me to give up.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
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Hard to believe this is how the Kenyan got elected. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.whiteoutpress.com/files/cache/fb604d37b8fe240d071c0bb6ee3680c1_f696.jpg)
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Even in VA in 2012. ![[Linked Image]](http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/i/MSNBC/Components/Interactives/_swf/Politics/Elections2012/images/overview/maps/PresidentVA.jpg)
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
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Like so many places he just happens to live where there are big cities and big cities rule the state. Big cities draw liberals. Liberals are the truds that make cesspools what they are.
Portland and Seattle have the votes to rule the entire states even though outside those big cities the rest of the state is conservative.
That leave us two choices, abandon out stares and move somewhere else where we will never be wanted and always be looked down upon or stay and fight.
I will not run and it is not in me to give up. If you aren't wanted in a certain state, it's because of how you act more than anything else. You know that.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Even in VA in 2012. The three NotVA counties are beltway .gov-rats. Two of the four in the center are UVA dominated; the other two supermajority black. Black supermajorities in at least seven of those other counties, with the Richmond universities being a huge impact on two more. Universities account for the small blue dots in a sea of red otherwise.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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