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I am not your mate you muslim cunt.
I don't always agree with you JSTUART, but today I have gained tremendous respect for you. I have started to find Mr Stuart's posts well worth reading and I have started to agree with him a lot more than I once did. It seem the gentleman from down under had a good head on his shoulders and I am pretty sure he would be a lot of fun to meet face to face.
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It's not about choice. It's not about government interference. It's about the store operators not abiding by the terms of their lease: Good Price discount mini-market in Colombes has been told by the local housing authority, from which it rents its premises, that it has not followed the conditions on the lease that stipulate that the shop must act as a "general food store." Good on the landlord... The landlord is going to have a tough battle with this one. If the fellow set up a boulangerie, confiserie, boucherie etc in a spot allocated as a "general food store" it would be pretty cut and dry for an eviction for breaking the contract. Here they have only selected two very specific items that the store isn't carrying. Do two items really differentiate a "general" food store from one that's not? What if the landlord complained because they don't carry Ostrich meat and Pressed Juice or Venison and Mead? Are tho e items normally sold in a general store? If not then why bring them up? Been to France many times. Are alcohol and pork normally sold in a general food or grocery store? Short answer: YES.
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It's not about choice. It's not about government interference. It's about the store operators not abiding by the terms of their lease: Good Price discount mini-market in Colombes has been told by the local housing authority, from which it rents its premises, that it has not followed the conditions on the lease that stipulate that the shop must act as a "general food store." Good on the landlord... The landlord is going to have a tough battle with this one. If the fellow set up a boulangerie, confiserie, boucherie etc in a spot allocated as a "general food store" it would be pretty cut and dry for an eviction for breaking the contract. Here they have only selected two very specific items that the store isn't carrying. Do two items really differentiate a "general" food store from one that's not? What if the landlord complained because they don't carry Ostrich meat and Pressed Juice or Venison and Mead? Are tho e items normally sold in a general store? If not then why bring them up? Just thinking about how far this can potentially go. If the landlord manages to make pork and liquor requisite for being considered a "general" food store, what if he just keeps naming two more foods per week? Eventually he's going to reach my absurd examples but long before that it's going to become unreasonable even to those who support him now.
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French authorities in a small town have ordered the local muzzie store to start selling both pork and alcohol, or their lease will be terminated.
At times, you really have to admire the French (not all the time ... mind you ... but at times like this).
Do you think that would ever happen here???
Already has - remember the bakery?
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When you start giving a schitt about being fair to muzzies, you are on the road to ruin.
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NO. Nor should it.
The problem isn't that a muslim has a store that doesn't sell pork or booze. The problem is that there are actually people that would shop there. The problem is that their BS is tolerated and this is a little hint that things be a changin. Or they could move to an extant sharia shangri-la. OT, The point that many are missing is the message the French are sending. The French will accept anyone as long as they become French. That means embracing French customs and culture to the hilt. Th French are not making this decree as a stance against free markets or capitalism, this is a statement about being French. French eat pork. French drink wine. Be French, not Sharia. That is their message. As much as we poke fun at the French, their history is one of violence and revolution. Remember, it was Joseph-Ignace Guillotin that perfected that beheading stuff so popular during the French revolution. I don't think the muzzies want to get into a beheading contest with them.
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Huh, and I thought you lot were for capitalism and free choice. If the locals don't like the contents of the shop they can shop elsewhere or start their own business. For instance my local grocery shop doesn't stock Toyota parts so I take that particular business elsewhere. Sir, It's the only LOCAL shop. Possibly you've not been to France or familiar with the culture, but they usually walk to where they buy groceries and they tend to shop daily.
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I am not your mate you muslim cunt.
I don't always agree with you JSTUART, but today I have gained tremendous respect for you. I have started to find Mr Stuart's posts well worth reading and I have started to agree with him a lot more than I once did. It seem the gentleman from down under had a good head on his shoulders and I am pretty sure he would be a lot of fun to meet face to face. Same here Scott. JStuart - keep on posting, you make a lot of sense...
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Do you think that would ever happen here??? The government shouldn't be telling ANY business what to sell- period. There should be no difference between this and the baker who doesn't want to sell a gay wedding cake. It's their friggin business.
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Sir, It's the only LOCAL shop.
Possibly you've not been to France or familiar with the culture, but they usually walk to where they buy groceries and they tend to shop daily. Not knowing what is going on, has never kept this bunch from forming opinions, nor talking about theirs, as if it was the only one. miles
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Do you think that would ever happen here??? The government shouldn't be telling ANY business what to sell- period. There should be no difference between this and the baker who doesn't want to sell a gay wedding cake. It's their friggin business. The government isn't telling them what to sell, their landlord is telling them to either comply with the terms of their lease, which was to run a grocery store, or lose their lease. The fact that it's a local government entity that owns the building seems to be tripping people up, they're still the landlord. French grocery stores sell wine and ham (jambon), if they don't then they're not a "general food store" as specified in the lease, the landlord has a right to terminate it. Also lost on some seems to be that it's in France, they have different laws than we do plus much weaker constitutional protections against religious discrimination. What might get blocked by a court on constitutional grounds in the U.S. is just going to get shrugged off by a French magistrate, he's going to care a lot less that someone is butthurt about their religious sensibilities being offended. Hatari makes good points about how the French think. You come to France you embrace french culture, you don't get to dictate your own especially after they've put up with a lot of crap over the last few years from these animals. They're, understandably, a bit tired of it. Local Dirt makes good points too. The french don't drive 30 miles to a grocery and stock up with three weeks worth of food. Their kitchens and refrigerators are usually tiny so they shop every day at the local corner market, they don't keep food on hand in the house. The landlords, the local council, rented the space for a grocery store to serve their community. If they're not selling wine and ham, which are both staples of the french diet, then they're not acting as a "general food store" thus violating the written terms of the lease and the landlord has a right to kick them out. It's not a religious issue, it's a lease contract violation issue.
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The government isn't telling them what to sell, their landlord is telling them to either comply with the terms of their lease, which was to run a grocery store, or lose their lease. The fact that it's a local government entity that owns the building seems to be tripping people up, they're still the landlord. French grocery stores sell wine and ham (jambon), if they don't then they're not a "general food store" as specified in the lease, the landlord has a right to terminate it. Are you saying that the lease SPECIFICALLY says what items the grocery store HAS to sell??? As in, it has a list of actual items that must be on the shelves. Otherwise, this is a stretch imo. If it just says it carries general grocery items, and other stores HAPPEN to carry the items in question, that is completely subjective. Look, I'm not defending Muslims here. I hate them for my own reasons. I'm defending the idea that people should be able to run their business as they wish, UNLESS the lease EXPLICITLY states otherwise.
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At times, you really have to admire the French (not all the time ... mind you ... but at times like this). I'd be more inclined to admire them if they just bulldozed the ghettos and expelled the muzzy fundies, rather than telling private businesses what they have to sell. That sounds more like cowardly socialist wimps to me, but since that's what they are is probably why.
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Are you saying that the lease SPECIFICALLY says what items the grocery store HAS to sell??? As in, it has a list of actual items that must be on the shelves. Otherwise, this is a stretch imo. If it just says it carries general grocery items, and other stores HAPPEN to carry the items in question, that is completely subjective. Look, I'm not defending Muslims here. I hate them for my own reasons. I'm defending the idea that people should be able to run their business as they wish, UNLESS the lease EXPLICITLY states otherwise.
I'm saying it's a different country and they have different laws and expectations. It's not the U.S., they can set their own rules. I spend a lot of time in France with my job, I'll be over there the last nine days of this month. I've been in a lot of french grocery stores and I've never seen one that didn't have a wall full of wine and a cooler full of ham. Beef is expensive and they don't eat much of it, but they do eat a hell of a lot of ham. Take away the wine, ham, and cheese & you'd clean out 75% of the items in your typical french grocery. So yes, if a landlord leases a space in France to someone for the express purposes of a "general food store" then no frenchman would reasonably call it a general food store if it didn't have wine and ham. They rented the building to him for the purpose of a general food store to serve the community, not a halal grocery. If they'd known that he was going to refuse to stock general food items that make up a large portion of the french diet then they wouldn't have rented it to him, they'd have rented it to someone that would set up a normal grocery since their purpose was to bring a grocery store to their community. If you rent a building to someone for the purposes of repairing bicycles and it's stated in the lease then you have a right to cancel the lease if he puts in a donut shop. That's a landlord's right.
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They let all them SOB's in there. What the hell they think was gonna happen. Keep them out of here!!!!!
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