Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Elk Hunting Which domestic dog breed can hold its own against Wolves?

olhippie,

I agree with you 100% on all counts!

Well thank God. With wolves on the verge of being delisted, I guess all we need to do to put them back into extinction is to let a few pit bulls loose in the wild.

A friend of mine had a dog in a kennel that was to keep away people from his gun repair business. It was part Great Dane and part Doberman. He called it a Doberdane.
I have never seen another one and I don't know if it could kill a wolf but if you saw it hurl itself against the fence and heard it bark you would stay off his property. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
whelennut

JBabcock,
I figured as much, but I bet they could improve the pack even more with some bad-assed dogo bloodlines. Of course, the lion or bear, or whatever the pack is chasing, might sometimes end up with.. what shall we say....a less desirable hide? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

RO
Alaska'a Wolf Man by Rearden has much about how dogs and wolves fight... Worth the read.
art

May not be a domestic but this dog will take of wolves.

http://www.courageouscaucasians.com/

http://elbruskennel.net/KoHistory.html

Thanks Art, I'll look around for it.

RO

RMiller,

Looks like you found a good stock dog there.

Plott hounds appear to not stand a chance. I googled them and came up with a story or two.
"They were overpowered so fast they didn't have time to fight - the wolves shredded two of them," Alexander said of his three dead dogs adding pieces of the dog's body parts and intestines were spread around the area.. "The wolves were slinging these dogs around. There was blood three feet high up on the trees."

The dead dogs "had no wolf hair in their teeth," Alexander said, indicating they did not fight the wolves and died fairly quickly.

http://www.tothecenter.com/print.php?type=N&item_id=445

Wisconsin DNR posts what kind of dogs and where they were killed. In most cases, the wolves were apparently protecting their young. They have warnings posted here also that show the attack areas.
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/er/mammals/wolf/dogdepred.htm

The caucasians are from russia.

The tradition is to crop thier ears so when a wolf grabs for the dogs ears it only gets a mouthfull of hair which leaves the wolf vulnerable. One wolf is not a match for a caucasian.

Also the dogs are shaggy like sheep so when the wolves come running all the sheep take off and the dog lays down til pounced on by a wolf.

These dogs are known to take on a wolf or wolves for that matter. If they are overtaken they will fight to the death.

My buddy had one of these dogs named "Conan" . His parents were brought over from Russia. The father named Czar was 220 pounds . Had cropped ears and looked like a bear not a dog. The mother was 180 pounds. Conan has reached 200 pounds at his peak.

They are loyal and faithful to family. But very distrustful if you are not family.

The dogs ears are cropped by grabbing a puppy by the ears and flinging it in the air and ripping the ears off. If the dog does not live through this it is not worth keeping. (old tradition).

Thanks for the info on the Caucasians. It's quite an interesting breed!

JBabcocks point that, if there was another dog (including a wolf) that could beat a pitbull in a cage, then they would be showing up in the cages, cannot be argued.

As pointed out several times, wolves instinctively kill, and only fight when socially necessary. A gamed pitbull instinctively fights, and a wolfs instinct would cause him to run from the fight, once it was obvious that things weren;t in his best interest, just as he would from an alfa male that he couldn;t dominate.

In our exploration camps (most in the cassiar/stewart/stikine area, east of the AK panhandle), people insist on bringing dogs all the time. The ones that aren't tied up or trained to stay in camp dissapear without fail. So in relation to the original question being "which domestic dog breed can hold its own against wolves (plural)", then my answer after seeing literally dozens of them dissapear in the northern BC woods, is none.

" my answer after seeing literally dozens of them dissapear in the northern BC woods, is none. "

Of course, wolves run in packs and kill in packs. One dog of any breed would not stand a chance.

Take one wolf, one game bred pit bull on any ground and the odds will go to the pit bull. Same could be said with a Wolf Hound as well.

Judging by the length of this thread.......

Hunting season must be over and we all must be bored! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Yes J I think your right. Would somebody please go out and kill something and post a pic of it!

No problem.

My next hunting season begins in May and if I miss that then it will be August.

Yes J I think your right. Would somebody please go out and kill something and post a pic of it!

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OR, someone could send his dog out to do it and take pictures later...

hello

there is two breeds that come to me immediatly ...

charplaninatz used in ex yugoslavia to fight wolves and protect herds from them ... efficient too with bears if they re well trained you cant use with kids or friends just a good warden ... they re fitted with leather and steel to protect back and throat dont knwo why lol .... anatolian dog ( from turkey) is good choice too but heard only never seen one in action ...

other one used by russian and finns the carelian bear dog perfect too and less agressive than charplaninatz ....

hope this helps

I'd be very suprised if there is any breed or any one dog out there that, one on one, could hold its own against a wolf.
Theres not to many that can stay with a coon much less a wolf. I've seen 1 coon whip several dogs.
Just my opinion...I really dont know much about wolves.

Frank Glaser had some stories, eh?

I wonder if he ever told the one about the immoveable object versus the irresistable force! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

A doc that I used to work with had Irish Wolfhounds. He was very much into them and had several at any one time.

He was also a runner and on one of his early morning jogs, during which he was accompanied by one of his dogs, they were charged be a large pitbull from a farmhouse. The wolfhound flashed in and rolled the pitbull in a matter of a couple of seconds. The pitbull charged again and the wolfhound again flashed between him and the charging dog, this time the wolfhound used his teeth and the pitbull was left flopping in the ditch. He said this was all over in a matter of about 30 seconds. By the way, this wolfhould was a mature male and weighed 200 lbs. So, I think one on one, the Irish wolfhound might hold their own.