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A final thought: while we have all contemplated possible reactions to a potential gun confiscation law, the better idea is to prevent such a law from existing. The best way I know of to accomplish preserving our Second Amendment RIGHT is to elect authentically conservative politicians.

I have not been optimistic since Reagan won reelection is '84, but I might be more optimistic now. I'm nearly 100% certain Donald Trump will win on 08 NOV 16. He has the most conservative platform of any modern presidential candidate, and that includes Reagan. But Trump will be only a start.

I believe that the last Supreme Court justice to be impeached was Samuel Chase, and that was in the early 19th century. The Supreme Court does not have constitutional authority to enact law. Only congressmen, who are accountable to We, the People have constitutional authority to create law. Therefore, we must elect authentically conservative congressmen. Moreover, before voting for a congressman, make them pledge to impeach activist Supreme Court justices.

There is no confusion of James Madison's Second Amendment. There are no conditions within his Second Amendment. The only legal way to abridge our Second Amendment RIGHT is by following Article V of the United States Constitution. Hence, all gun control laws that contradict the Second Amendment are illegal because the United States Constitution is the supreme law of our land. Therefore, we must insist that our congressmen impeach justices who do not follow the supreme law of the land.

As we all know, it's much easier to prevent bad things from happening to our individual rights and liberties because once lost, we don't get them back.

Yes, to some extent history repeats itself. The things that make this country different however is 1. We have a volunteer military force, 2. We have the largest number of private gun owners on the planet, and 3. Rebellion runs in our DNA. Many of your premises make the assumption that all these different government agencies and the military and law enforcement will just do what the "dictator" says. MANY would choose to side with their countrymen and defy the government, some from within, some will just walk away. This kind of scenario would be characterized by almost unpredictable micro wars peppered all over the nation by geographic region. It would probably be uncontrollable.

Good lord.

BTW the scenario as listed, basically is how its going to have to go down and its been that way for years.

Though I can't quite peg it to this coming election, BUT things have never been in closer alignment for the crap to happen, than the way it is this go round.

Certainly only time will tell.

CErtainly you can only be just so prepared.

Lets pray it doesn't happen, yet be ready to save the country if it does.

I'm in the flight path of Whidbey Island Naval Airstation and watch freedom overhead all the time. It makes me feel as though my .338 is a little anemic.

Modern technology has changed the rules of rebellion. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that NSA peruses these forums and saves content.

Sako AV, your nonsensical and quite juvenile grade school insults and ridiculous disparaging accusations of me are meaningless to me.

It is very obvious that having a logical conversation with you is, as the old adage goes, "Ain't hardly worth the candle."

L.W.

Guess what guy, you're not living in 1778 and the Constitution isn't today what it was when it was written back then, wasn't meant to be and it isn't. Things change get use to it. And man I do believe you are letting your self in for a lot of heartbreak come November 9th, or just a few short months away!

As for what some are saying about not being able to carry on a conversation with you... Hell we're all the same way!

Phil

The fact that some folks, some 200 plus years later, are ready to let the reasons the nation was founded, change and slip away into .gov rule and socialism, and that they seem to enjoy that, is very aggravating.

You are right, November likely will bother me a lot. Because of the continued demise of this once great nation.

I'd sure like to see all the positives of the liberal democratic thinking process put down in black and white for once...

I'm about tired of paying for everyone else's chit too...

So we no longer have a constitution? Are we running on fickle guidelines?

You are a definitive extremist and march in America's fifth column. You're dangerous to Americans' individual liberties. You'd have us marching to Greyghost's reeducation centers for brainwashing.

You have zero clue of early American history.

What you're really saying is that you've made up your mind, and facts won't change it. You're a neocons dream lackey.

He ain't been the same since he started having "dinner" with that nice black lady next door.

If anyone thinks that there are not those among us that will fight for freedom, you don't have to participate.

All you have to do is hide and watch.

It happens all the time. Most of the comments about those poor bastards range along the lines of "he should have obeyed the law".

Arguably the stupidest and most dangerously ignorant statement since the sad day you joined this Forum..

If you and your kind don't like what the constitution says and the rights it guarantees then get the f*ck out. There's only one Country I know of that guarantees me the rights I have here and I'm willing to fight to keep them. There are plenty of places you could go live under socialism/communism where citizens aren't allowed to be armed.

Damn.

Has subsonic .22 gotten that expensive?

The Constitution was designed to promulgate and maintain 18th Century English government and to maintain the rights of Englishmen living in America...Americans. It has failed to maintain those rights, preserve that form of government, and to check government power. Why? Because it is unsuited for other kinds of people and we've been letting them in by the bushels for a long dang time.

America is not an idea. It is not a principle. It was a country in which Americans lived and Americans were a race descended from that cultural stock here at the time of the Revolution.

The Constitution is a document. It has zero power if our leaders don't enforce it. And we have plenty of corrupt American politicians that have allowed the integrity of the premises of the document erode over the years. So, our own people allowed it to decay, and our own people will have to restore those principles with force if need be. And as far as I am concerned, we have every legal (and ethical) right to do so.

No, it wasn't our "own people", it was in large part because we let in other kinds of people with different ideas of what government is and should be than Americans.