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Hi Folks:

I am proud and honored to welcome officially Wayne van Zwoll to the rolls of Campfire membership.

Please use this thread to ask Wayne questions about his new, exclusive Campfire article LOADS FOR THE LONG SHOT, linked here and also found on the Reloading subpage.

Welcome, Wayne!

Rick

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Welcome Wayne.


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Great news and welcome!



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Cool!


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I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Awesome!

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I have long been a fan of yours. Welcome to the fire.

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WVZ, welcome!

From your article: "Joe Thielen sums it up: "To oversimplify, impaired flight due to tip melt happens to bullets with a starting BC of .550, at 3,000 ft/sec exit speed, over ranges exceeding 300 yards.""

Really interesting statement.

Do you know of any info on the effect of heat on other bullet types, such as hollow point (I assume negligible) and lead tipped? Of course lead tipped bullets don't have high BCs, so the comparison may not be a fair one.

Thanks!
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Welcome, long time fan...


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Glad your on board. Welcome!


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Welcome WVZ. Hopefully the moderators won't let certain forum members curse, belittle, and trash your threads as they do with other paying sponsor's threads.

I look forward to your replies.


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Thank you! I'm sure I'll learn something around this campfire -- initially how to listen and talk across it!

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Thank you, Ranger. I'm sure to learn from this group!

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Thank you. And how true!

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I can certainly agree with that!

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Hi Wayne,

Welcome to the Campfire! It's sort of an alternate universe, as you'll soon discover, but one with some real virtues.


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Thank you, ipopum. It's already an interesting experience!

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WvZ,

Welcome to the "Campfire". I have always appreciated and respected your writing.

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Thank you, Mike. About now, riflemen from my part of the country are packing up for a few months in yours!

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The heating of bullets in flight is hard to study. I must defer to ballisticians with more experience and equipment. But those who've conducted the Doppler trials for Hornady are on to something. As I've mentioned in my articles on the topic, heat build-up becomes consequential when the bullet 1) is going fast enough to generate requisite friction, 2) has a high enough BC to travel at speed for some distance and 3) flies far enough to permit thorough heating. Most bullets/shots don't meet all those requirements. Your question about HP and SP noses is a good one. Without data, I'll hazard that jacket material won't melt at the velocities shown to induce melting in polymer. And while lead will liquefy at lower temps than gilding metal, it's already imperfect in form at the bullet tip. If heat affects its shape, any change would be hard to measure and to replicate in shooting trials. That's my tractor-seat opinion.

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Thank you for the kind words.

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