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Sorry for the length of the following. It was lifted from the Louisiana Sportsman Magazine furum on Hunting Reports. Briefly its from a guy who forgot to bring his rifle to a deer hunt and used his 9mm auto to kill a deer at 130 yards. Its caused quite a stir on the forum.



On Sunday morning, while standing on a logging road on our deer lease in Simmsboro we were anxiously awaiting the dogs (who were in hot pursuit) to bring a deer across the straight-a-way road for Joe or Woody to shoot. They had their rifles on ready, but the dogs made a sudden turn to the opposite direction and they put their guns back into the trucks and commenced to get on the CB to alert the other members as to where the dogs had turned. I was standing along side the truck in the ditch watching and listening to them when a deer stepped out into the road, looked away then looked at us and proceeded to cross the very narrow road. Neither of my buddies had his rifle in shooting position, so I unholstered my 9mm and fired once striking the deer and he stumbled. Before they could get their rifles out to shoot the deer, he stepped over into the woods. I was dumbfounded with joy as my strickly lucky shot had hit the deer and both Joe and Woody were also amazed. We went up to where the deer stumbled to look for blood but found none. No sooner than we got to looking for the blood, one of the other members called and asked if "that crazy coonazz had shot that pistol" at a deer. Joe answered back to come bring a dog to track 'cause Capt. John had hit that deer with that pistol. When that announcement went over the radio, all the rest of the club quickly came over to assist in the search efforts because this would be the first kill with a pistol in the Club's 23 year career and they were all equally happy for me. The beagle found blood where the deer had laid down near a creek but could not track him any farther. At this point, one of the other members brought in his two best Walker hounds to continue the search and immediately got on the track and in minutes they found the deer in a pile of blood near death. It took the good part of an hour to get the deer out of the dense undergrowth but with all the manpower it happened, and history was made at the Simmsboro Buck Club as a 135# spike was hauled into the bed of the Mayor's truck to go to the processing house. We went back to the spot where the deer was shot with Joe Collin's range finder that he uses on his job as estimator for Willhite Electric, and proved the distance was a even 130 yards from my shell casing to the spot the deer was standing. That's the story and I approve of it as I swear to it's authenticity!

Lucky? Oh heck yes! Could I do it again? Probably won't get another chance to as I'll have a rifle next time. Do I think it was unethical to shoot at that deer? Absolutely NOT and you that think that are full of jealously(Whitetrails and Ramboo). I think the most part of what I read of the comments support the fact that some of you don't have a clue as to what hunting is and probably have never been and I hope never do! Mr. LongGun, I do want to thank you for your comments as you do speak with knowledge. On my way into town this early afternoon, I, too, stopped at Clark's Guns and Safes in Bossier on the old Strip and talked with the guys and gals there. They informed me that no one has come forward and bring some money to witness Mrs Clark put all 14 rounds of 9mm bullets in a 14" target plate at 130 yards.

whatta schmuck...

Dog hunters are a different breed...When large tracts of land were around in the South to hunt on, there was a lot to be said for the tradition. Now there are few locations left to hunt where dog hunters don't cause serious hard feelings with other property owners/hunters. The clubs that do control enough land to still hunt well with dogs, are faced with ever higher costs so as a result some let the kind of low class slobs that give hunting a bad name into the clubs...
IMO, if there had not been tracking dogs there to increase the odds of finding that deer.... my vote would be to gut shoot that guy and let him die a slow death in the swamp. With dogs there... well I wouldn't choose to hunt with him again...

Irresponsible Bastard!!

Well I can say is he is a dumb butt and he's pround of it.

Dog hunting is different with different rules. It is probably no more unethical to shoot at that deer with a pistol than it is to shoot at a deer running across a field 200 yards away 5 times with a Remington 742. That is just the way dog hunting is done. There are lots of wounded deer. It just happens.

A lot of people on this board get upset about wounded deer, and I can't say I disagree exactly. But dog hunting is a relic of a time and place where people understood that deer were animals and because of that, they didn't lose much sleep worrying about causing undue suffering or anxiety on the part of the deer. They hunted because it was fun and they wanted the meat. There wasn't any of this citified pseudo intellectual crap that so many use to justify hunting nowadays.

Some of you who look down your noses at dog hunting and consider it a distasteful relic of the past, are undoubtedly foreshadowing your descendants' views about your shameful hunting hobby.

We had a family gathering last night and my 2nd cousin, who is from Simmsboro, was telling me about this incident. Everyone agreed that this guy is an idiot for even trying the shot. Who needs a 9mm handgun when deer hunting with a group, during daylight hours? If I am trailing a deer in a thicket after dark, I often take a handgun in a waist pack and leave my rifle, but that is different.

Well, in his defense at least he didn't use a .223...

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How many of us would shoot at anything with a heartbeat at 130yd with anything chambered in 9x19mm?

I wouldn't even take that shot with a scoped 9mm carbine at someone who was trying to kill me: I'd try to get closer.

If someone was trying to kill me at 130 yards and all I had was my 9mm? I'd be taking up a cover position and returning fire.

And after 30 shots if I didn't hit em or scare em I'd be leaving pronto!

Idiots and liars are born daily (just a general statement), some have the proof written right there on their forehead; you just have to look close (then again, sometimes it just sticks out and says I'm a dumba**)...

Regardless of what the end result is, utilizing a totally improper gun, for the task at hand, to take a deer at a very unethical range, for the gun/ammo/etc, is pure SLOP hunting to me and gives way to being very careless towards the game in which we should respect.

freakin coonies...

Sounds like the guy had the old, "Patience hell, I'm gonna shoot something" disease. Regardless, I don't understand it.

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How much energy does a 9mm round carry out to that range?
I call BS.

Cover's good; I like the cover.

But I figure I'm just about as likely to hit 'em at 130yd with a 9mm by not shooting as I am by shooting. So I'm figuring:

If I return fire, then A) they know where I am; B) they know I have no armament but a piddly-dink little gangsta 9--because if I had more I'd be using it; C) they know I'm high-strung and excitable; and D) I'm 30rd lighter.

If I just hunker in my hidey-hole, then A) whatever surprise I have I keep: maybe they don't know how or if I'm armed or exactly where I am; B) they'll get closer, which means that C) my hit probability will wildly increase, as will D) the amount of damage any successful hits might do, which E) makes those 30rd I saved much, much more effective.

But maybe you're a lot better than I am with a 9mm.

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I remember when this happened. The distance between Brown and the perp was reported at 90 yards if I remember right.


Not that what this deer hunter did was right or ethical or wise.

S*** shot

How many of you guys would stand out at 130 yards and let someone shoot at you with a pistol?

When I was in the Army, we used to put a 55 gal. drum out on the practice range at 100 yards and then proceed to shoot the living hell out of it with plain old gov. issue 45's.

Also, I have done some deer hunting in the South with dogs and all that is really necessary sometimes is to hit the deer and the dogs will usually run it down.

In fact, a lot of the guys I hunted with used buckshot and just aimed for the legs.

Seen them kill a lot of deer that way.

Not really defending the dude, but not ready to hang him yet either, if you get my drift.

JMHO

Are you suggesting it is ethical to shoot at deer 130 yards away with a 9mm pistol?

If it had been a .270, the sucker would still be running....