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Originally Posted by Calhoun
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So you ship firearms through USPS? Brilliant

All the time. Why not ship long guns that way?



I do too. Never a problem.

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Originally Posted by TheBigSky
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Yep, that's why I only ship golf clubs.. wink


I guess it saves you money on insurance.


New set of golf clubs will run you the cost of a nice Montana - easily.

A 2000 dollar insurance purchase on "Golf Clubs" or "Machine parts" wouldn't raise an eyebrow...


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This is a continually confusing problem for people. FedEx cannot establish law. Neither can USPS, or UPS. A private individual can legally ship a long gun via USPS, UPS, FedEx or any common carrier. Only an FFL can ship a handgun via USPS, and it is rather entertaining to shove it up their dark star when you have a lefty liberal at the counter.

FedEx has a policy of only shipping handguns via their 2 Day or Express service, but I have shipped handguns via FedEx Ground.

As Jorge wrote- the trick is to have an account, print your own label and remove the counter idiot from the equation.


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I recently shipped a rifle that I sold to another forum member to his FFL. I used a FedEx store. Shipped ground and insured for well under thirty dollars from DFW to southern AZ. Identified as a gun. They did bash me for another few bucks as they didn't like my original packing which was wrapped in brown paper. They wanted it in a plain unwrapped box. I had it in a CZ box from a recent purchase and did not want that advertised to the driver(s). I had sold the piece shipped, so the three day delivery was no biggie to me.

Kicker. I used my SIL's FFL to ship. I may have used his store front address as a shipped from. Like Hillary, I don't remember small details.

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Yep.

Use a plain brown box (or have any logos or old shipping material marked over - I use black spray paint) and a printed out shipping label paid for over the net securely attached with clear tape.

Walk in to shipping point of choice, lay package on counter and say in a cheerful voice, "this is ready to go!". Clerk says "thanks!", then I walk out and everyone is happy. At USPS they will ask if it is liquid, fragile, perishable or potentially hazardous or contains lithium batteries, to which I reply "nope" then I walk out and everyone is happy. At least that's how it's gone when using UPS, FedEx and USPS at several different shipping points.


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by selmer
So you ship firearms through USPS? Brilliant

All the time. Why not ship long guns that way?


I stand corrected. I've always been under the impression that USPS didn't ship guns from non-licensees. Period. I was wrong. Thanks!


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My package was in a plain brown box, with prepaid shipping label (securely taped to the box) that I generated off their website at my home on my account. Still the dimwit asked if it was a gun.

I went down to the Ground shipping office at 4:30 pm, as the driver had told me. He was already there and told me that he already had my package on the truck. He also told me that it was only handguns that they wanted shipped Express or overnight.

The dimwit at the storefront shipping office wouldn't even look at me.


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Stocks removed from rifles etc help much. Nothing screams GUN like a 4' long box and is only 5 inches deep and 12 inches wide.

As I told a chick at FEDEX one day when she asked 'Does this contain a gun' I asked her 'Why didn't you ask the 2 people in front of me that question when they dropped off boxes?'

I told her one could easily fit 2 handguns in either of those boxes.


And that's the point, don't make it look like a gun box.


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For that matter I have SHIPPED the stock to the individual and the barreled action to the FFL.

Of course you can't sell like that to retards, they'd never get the damned thing back together and bitch about it endlessly.



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Originally Posted by teal
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Originally Posted by CEJ1895
Yep, that's why I only ship golf clubs.. wink


I guess it saves you money on insurance.


New set of golf clubs will run you the cost of a nice Montana - easily.

A 2000 dollar insurance purchase on "Golf Clubs" or "Machine parts" wouldn't raise an eyebrow...


I assumed he meant, maybe tongue in cheek, that he ships a gun and claims that it is golf clubs. Based on that assumption, insuring against damage when it is indeed damaged and discovered to be gun will be useless in trying to recover under insurance. Loss? Maybe O.K.


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I shipped a Lee-Enfiekd this morning via local UPS agent at the hardware store. "What's in the box?" "Machined metal parts." Went without a hitch.


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It's a local UPS/Fedex store. I don't know anymore than that. Just that they won't send guns.

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Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
It's a local UPS/Fedex store. I don't know anymore than that. Just that they won't send guns.


They are not considered "common carriers" by law and may not ship guns.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
If it is not an actual FedEx facility, just a business set up to accept FedEx shipments they cannot legally accept firearms.


I have experienced the same problem. I have to take them to a FedEx facility not a place that accepts packages for FedEx.

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Originally Posted by teal
That's not a FedEx problem, you basically said it yourself.

That's a dumbphouck behind the counter problem and he'd be an issue if his shirt was brown (UPS) or blue (USPS) not just purple (FedEx).



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I've shipped machined parts many times. So far so good. Having an account makes things easier as some have mentioned.


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I'm pretty sure you have to notify a common carrier that you are shipping a firearm. You do not have to notify USPS. I think dealing with employees who don't know the laws or regulations happens more often than not. I had to get the post master involved the first time I mailed a rifle. He didn't even know the regulation and had to "look into" and get back to me. Now I print off my shipping label, take the box in and drop it off. It gives them less time to ask questions they shouldn't be asking.

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Originally Posted by CEJ1895
Yep, that's why I only ship golf clubs.. wink


Car parts.

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Is it illegal to tell UPS or Fedex you are shipping machined parts, golf clubs, etc when you are actually shipping a long gun?


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Originally Posted by cdb
Is it illegal to tell UPS or Fedex you are shipping machined parts, golf clubs, etc when you are actually shipping a long gun?


How can that be illegal? A firearm is indeed machined parts.



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