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I'll just say it, the 85 mm Razor is garbage. It was almost worthless above 48 power. The Meopta blows it out of the water. Maybe you were looking through a bad one or something. Mine is excellent. Peoples definition of excellent are different.
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I'll just say it, the 85 mm Razor is garbage. It was almost worthless above 48 power. The Meopta blows it out of the water. Maybe you were looking through a bad one or something. Mine is excellent. Peoples definition of excellent are different. That's true. I'm comparing it to various Swaro, Leica, Zeiss, etc, that I've spent some time behind. No Meopta and no Kowa, though.
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I'll just say it, the 85 mm Razor is garbage. It was almost worthless above 48 power. The Meopta blows it out of the water. If power was the main issue ou were looking through either a bad example or had mirage issues that would have bothered everything you looked through. Too much looking through too many optics to accept an offhand "garbage" label...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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its too bad they didn't put in more eye relief in the new vortex spotters. I really like the form factor of the new ones. Yup, I got one of the 27-60x85 new versions for this fall's moose hunt and really liked it... once I got used to the tight eye relief. It was not automatic and there was/is some concern they will not be as well-received because of it. Art, I have the same spotter and though I've had it a month or so I just got it out on a window mount and then a tripod to work it out a bit; while the optics are good and I like the ergo's and controls, you are right, the eye-relief is "tight", very "tight".
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I've got one of the first gen Razor 16-48x65mm. I noticed the new version gained some weight. 48 oz to 56 oz. Yeah, in my opinion that's a fair step backwards........ Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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I'll just say it, the 85 mm Razor is garbage. It was almost worthless above 48 power. The Meopta blows it out of the water. Maybe you were looking through a bad one or something. Mine is excellent. Also, I've seen a lot of variation between individual optics from the China/Taiwan stuff. Although as the OP noted the new new Razors are asssembled here. Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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its too bad they didn't put in more eye relief in the new vortex spotters. I really like the form factor of the new ones. Yup, I got one of the 27-60x85 new versions for this fall's moose hunt and really liked it... once I got used to the tight eye relief. It was not automatic and there was/is some concern they will not be as well-received because of it. Art, I have the same spotter and though I've had it a month or so I just got it out on a window mount and then a tripod to work it out a bit; while the optics are good and I like the ergo's and controls, you are right, the eye-relief is "tight", very "tight". They picked up some "light" with the reduced eye relief by bringing the eye closer to reduce stray light
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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