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Cause the 280 AI does the same thing, with less powder, more ammo in the magazine, and a 40 degree shoulder. Enough said. Laffin....if you boot it to 65,000 psi. I bet some loads are over that.Must be another miracle cartridge....less capacity but the same velocities? How'd that happen? Please explain? Even then it gives less velocity....so more pressure and less velocity. Gee what a bargain. It's a real winner LOL! And you can't find ammo anywhere on the road. Brass available from how many sources? ONE!? Tell me I'm wrong. I feel bad for you guys.  It's 5+decades behind in popularity and will never catch the 7 Rem Mag. Repeat.....never. I guess a lot of 280AI users need the extra round in the magazine ? Plus it's inventor never did anything much in the way of BG hunting so he can be ignored, unlike the guys who invented the 7 Rem Mag,who gave it a few years of field testing before they released it to the public. They were hunters. Some people will fall for anything... 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Cause the 280 AI does the same thing, with less powder, more ammo in the magazine, and a 40 degree shoulder. Enough said. Laffin....if you boot it to 65,000 psi. I bet some loads are over that.Must be another miracle cartridge....less capacity but the same velocities? How'd that happen? Please explain? Even then it gives less velocity....so more pressure and less velocity. Gee what a bargain. It's a real winner LOL! And you can't find ammo anywhere on the road. Brass available from how many sources? ONE!? Tell me I'm wrong. I feel bad for you guys. It's 5+decades behind in popularity and will never catch the 7 Rem Mag. Repeat.....never. I guess a lot of 280AI users need the extra round in the magazine ? Plus it's inventor never did anything much in the way of BG hunting so he can be ignored, unlike the guys who invented the 7 Rem Mag,who gave it a few years of field testing before they released it to the public. They were hunters. Some people will fall for anything... Come on Bob. Tell us what you really think about the AI.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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bellydeep:Pass the standard 280....HOLD the 280AI.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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R26 can make vanilla into what AI was. But then again it can make AI into mag. But then take mag to new levels.
So they say, not my gig anymore.....
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You can keep the 280 AI. :-) ![[Linked Image]](http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg573/pathfinder76/unnamed-26_zpsrbxunkog.jpg)
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bellydeep:Pass the standard 280....HOLD the 280AI. That has been my feeling as well. Own 3 of the regular ones, 2 7mm Rems, and an STW.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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You can keep the 280 AI. :-) Good looking lefty there.
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You can keep the 280 AI. :-) Sharp!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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My late FIL hunted around the US and Canada with his Ruger 7 Rem Mag. He thought it was ideal for the all around hunter.
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I've never owned/shot a 280 AI
Never will. I've had 7 Mags for yrs, no muss, no fuss.
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I like the 280. AI just makes it more fun. Run regular 280 loads in it if you like. I'd love to see the animal killed with a 7rm that wouldn't have died from a 280. Or vice versa. Best part of these threads is watching Bobin pop a vein.
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I like the 280. AI just makes it more fun. Run regular 280 loads in it if you like. I'd love to see the animal killed with a 7rm that wouldn't have died from a 280. Or vice versa. Best part of these threads is watching Bobin pop a vein. I've killed game with all of them. Big bull elk and Moose included. Bob is right. If I was going to get serious about just one it would be Remington's magnum.
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I've never owned/shot a 280 AI
Never will. I've had 7 Mags for yrs, no muss, no fuss.
Jerry Why shoot a 280, when you can step up to a 30-06 or 7mm rem mag....  
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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30-06? That puny case? It's gotta be a MAGNUM man...Lol.
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Around here lots of RUM's,STW and WSM's are being shelved in favor of the 7RM..
10 years ago it was the other way around. Remington builds them right and they almost always shoot well. And they are a 2.5" case, which gives a guy plenty of room to work with in the mag box, something the others mentioned do not do.
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I've never owned/shot a 280 AI
Never will. I've had 7 Mags for yrs, no muss, no fuss.
Jerry Why shoot a 280, when you can step up to a 30-06 or 7mm rem mag.... Had a 280 then a 7mag then a 270 win. The 7mag is a great cartridge because it's a great piece of American magnum history (264 WM, 7mm RM, 300 WM, 338 WM, 458 WM) and if you buy one you won't be satisfied, you will always something more and something less, which is actually a positive trait in a cartridge The farthest successful shot I took on any big game was with a 7mag and a wolf. Great memories.
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I've killed game with all of them. Big bull elk and Moose included. Bob is right. If I was going to get serious about just one it would be Remington's magnum.
Well you actually hunt instead of theorizing about 40 degree shoulders and one more round of magazine capacity, so the 7 Rem Mag makes sense to you. MM Im glad you're enjoying the dialogue.. 280AI fans are easily entertained....blow the dents out of a 280 case and they get all excited.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Well you actually hunt instead of theorizing about 40 degree shoulders<<< and one more round>>> of magazine capacity....
Yrs. ago I 'used to' be concerned about ONLY 3 rounds in the magazine so, I'd also load hot + 3 = 4 total rounds. After a few yrs of hunting "LIMITED" like that  I realized that I had NEVER shot 4Xs at game. So I quit thinking about it. When (IF) you ever hunted a #1 there is NO magazine.  Jerry
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