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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
The other day when I first shot for speed over the magnetospeed I said it was 33 degrees. In reality the Ammo and gun went into a warm car out of a warm house. So I'm guessing that I was getting 3200 at around 65 degrees.
Today with the same load of 73grs. with the gun and ammo at a blistering
-7 degrees below zero, I lost 100fps and the groups went to crap.
My Retumbo and 168gr. CC still bug holed so twasn't me or the gun.

Back to the drawing board.


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Did you shoot the H1000 load to see how it held up?




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The Retumbo and 168gr. Custom Comp lost around 50fps but kept its accuracy. I can live with that.
When I got home today I loaded up some 75grs. H1000 under a 160gr. Partition and 75.5grs. of Retumbo under the 160gr. PT. I have some and the rifle chilling in the truck tonight the others I'll keep in my shirt pocket nice and warm. That should give me around 80 degree difference.
I have a lot more Retumbo than H1000 so I'm hoping the results lean that way.


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Form die for a 7mm Mashburn Super.
.284 Hornady AMax 162gr.
.224 Hornady AMax 75gr.
22-250 bushing die
Bushing die that will work with the 7mm Mashburn Super
A couple Glock 42 380ACP mags
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Great info Les. I've got a bunch of H1000 and Retumbo so I'm hoping once the new rifle shows up it works like the old rifle did.

I do like the Mashburn though. 2 seasons and 3 elk have made me a believer.


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Originally Posted by Les7603006
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
The other day when I first shot for speed over the magnetospeed I said it was 33 degrees. In reality the Ammo and gun went into a warm car out of a warm house. So I'm guessing that I was getting 3200 at around 65 degrees.
Today with the same load of 73grs. with the gun and ammo at a blistering
-7 degrees below zero, I lost 100fps and the groups went to crap.
My Retumbo and 168gr. CC still bug holed so twasn't me or the gun.

Back to the drawing board.



My chronograph strings are suggesting the opposite with IMR7977 with 270 and 243.

I have not had the opportunity to chrono in really warm weather vs cold weather. But with temps at about 60 degrees vs high 20's there is no difference with identical loads and componets other than well within normal variation. I haven't mentioned my results because I wanted to wait until I had info that included temps from hot weather (like 80's or 90's ) vs cold weather (single digits).

Knowing what the temps of the firearms, ammo and air is important. Cold/heat soaking the firearms and ammo, and operating the chrono in a warmish enviroment is important too.

What brand of chrono were you using? Did you keep it warm during cold weather? Was the firearm and ammo heat/cold soaked?

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
My guestimate, based on what I've read, would be Extreme, then Enduron, then RL series. Just don't know the spread.

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"Guesstimate"?!

Wait a minute, I thought reloading was an exact science? laugh


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Originally Posted by Les7603006
Today, at a blistering -7 degrees below zero, I lost 100fps and the groups went to crap.

Back to the drawing board.


I seem to spend more time there than at the range. At least the drawing board is temperature stable.


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Casey; The crono is a magnetospeed and the Ammo and rifle were the same temp hot and cold.



Want To Buy;
Form die for a 7mm Mashburn Super.
.284 Hornady AMax 162gr.
.224 Hornady AMax 75gr.
22-250 bushing die
Bushing die that will work with the 7mm Mashburn Super
A couple Glock 42 380ACP mags
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