Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Creedmoor, i don't get it

You might look at a 6mm PPC. Bad groups will be better than most any other cartridge will shoot at their best.

I don't have a need but I can GAF of others needs.

Looks like a fine chambering to me for all the stated reasons.

Who all is offering rifles in the 6.5? I've seen the RAR, Howa Alpine, and the Montana.

Lot of 6 PPC's shooting at 600-1000 yd matches right

You can also get it in Winchester, just not made by Winchester.

I think Remington went through a string of poorly done introductions. The .338RUM should have been the longer case over the .300 which would have been better in 7mm.

The SAUM should have been in .264,.284, and .308. The .300 anything is so over-done it's not interesting.

The .260 would have been better with a faster twist offered in some of the heavier rifles with a full length tube.

Nothing is really new it seems. The only recent development I'm interested in is a .458 SOCOM w/ a suppressor.

True dat Sam.

OTOH, starting from scratch, the 65 Creedmoor is the shiznit. I think the best round of my lifetime (1961 onward).

I like rifles, so buying another one, modifying it to be exactly the way that I want it, and then doing the load development gives me reasonable justification to avoid doing things that I'd rather not do, like working off the items on my Wife's endless Honey-Do list.

100-300 yards was the reference.

Slightly higher standardized loading pressures play a bigger role than any amount of OAL; A current Hodgdon manual is a decent way to compare the 6.5 Creed to a 260. Same COL, pretty much similar speeds, powder is less for the Creed, but max pressures are higher.


The Creedmore concept thrives in that its rifles are twisted properly and usually throated in conjuction as well. Brass is usually match grade out of the gate. Thats what makes the Lapua and Hornady offers appealing.

A 260 pretty much has had a commercial lineage as just another deer cartridge by its maker.

Im just happy some of the bigger makers have come to terms with better brass and bullets.

No flies on the V2 either.

Ruger offers 5 choices. The RAR, Precision rifle, Hawkeye sporter, VT, and hawkeye predator

and the Hawkeye Predator is the pick of the litter.....

I have done that for the past 30+ years. I still don't have a need for a Creed.

The Creed is a niche cartridge that addresses a very specific issue. It just happened to catch on for a while.




Dave

That's not the only thing that keeps you wondering, you dumbpfck

'Tis why I still drive a Model T...

Wonder what the "pinnacle of performance" looks like?

I own two 6.5 Creeds a RA Predator and a custom built on a 700 action with a 2b Bartlein by Joe Collier.

I had intended on having Joe build me a .243AI until I bought the Predator.

The first three shots out of the Predator using a generic load that everyone seemed to have success with gave me this group below after I got it on paper with factory ammo.

After this I was sold on the Creed and it's ease of finding a load it will shoot along with the mild recoil.

IMO it's the best caliber that I have used and reloaded for. Accuracy is excellent and recoil is gentle especially for my kids



Here is three shots out of each rifle at 200yds using 130gr Berger VLD Hunting bullets. The Bartlein 24" gives me 160ft/s more speed than the 22" Ruger. Both are under 1/2"

Ruger group on the left and custom on the right.


Custom


The RAP with a 1.5# Timney trigger and 6x Super Chicken is hard to beat for around $800 just wished it was stainless. Kinda hurts thinking about what I have in the custom but the feel is worth the extra coin.



As for the 6mm Creed I will have one of those as soon as they become available.

147's at 2800 can't be far off.