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Both my arms hang at my sides in bear country. But I DO carry bear spray. Sidearm, not so much...
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Since you are talking back pack hunting,weight might be an issue. A little pricey for my taste,but those new model Ruger Bearcats are nice little handguns. I think they come in 22 mag now,but not sure. A 22 mag is going to take care of any needs you listed.
My experience and opinion only,but I have not shot any DOA semis that don't have horendous trigger pull. I would at least want one that is single action for the 1st round
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I usually carry a G20 but I also have packed a 329pd. I have little use for a .22 unless small game is in the works. I would feel fine with a .45 of some sort (Glock or 1911 if I was willing to pack the weight), and wouldn't go smaller than a S&W shield in 9mm.
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The Glock 19 is the answer to most handgun questions.
Fact.
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MS, I carry the conceptual twin of your pistol, the Springfield XDS .45 cal.
Primary reason is that a pal sold it for a very good price. I installed a Powder River trigger kit and sear. It is very compact for the power yield, yet not miserable to shoot.
I like the concept of the small .44 Special, but ballistics are just not much different than the .45 ACP.
I load a hard cast 200 grainer with 7.5 grains of Power Pistol for practice, 8.5 grains for bear carry. Nightstand load is 180 Golden Saber hollow points from Remington.
It's not the best pistol for any specific use, but it's damned good for every use.
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And another thing Since the topic is backpack carry, I'll blather on with more opinions supported by nothing more than mere survival, the ability to type, some top-notch professional handgun training, and many large dead animals. The design of the pistol in question is not nearly as important as the ability to bring it to bear instantly. (That's about the slickest possible pun there!) I carry the holster on the outside of the hip belt of my pack. It's less than ideal, but is the only way I can get to a pistol RFN (Right Frikkin Now). A chest rig would work also, but I'm not good with those. Remember the video of the mauled AK hunter? He didn't have time to raise the rifle that was already in hand. Any attempt to dig out a pistol during a bear charge would result in the blackest of comedy.
I do not entertain hypotheticals. The world itself is vexing enough. -- Col. Stonehill
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a good, lightweight .22. A tacsol buckmark/ruger or something more compact like a browning 1911-22 or ruger sr-22..... This. For a few reasons. A: Everyone needs a good 22 pistol. B: Meat for the pot can be quietly taken with a 22 without alerting everyone and everything. C: A 22 is great fun for casual plinking during a backpacking trip to pass the time. D: A very shootable 22 capable of good field accuracy can be had in a very packable weight. The additional benefit is the weight of extra ammo; a lot of extra ammo can be carried for little weight penalty. E: A lightweight 22 is easier to shoot than most comparable weight centerfire pistols or revolvers, which makes practice easier and more fun, which makes for a better shooter! F: A 22 LR will handily take down any of the threats you mentioned. If defense against enraged AK toting methed-out Somali pirates or man eating tigers was an issue, perhaps your Glock 19 would be in order....but a 22 will work fine on random varmints. Since you already own the Glock 19, the other guns mentioned won’t be of any real advantage, unless you’re simply looking to buy a new gun. Another option is a 22 LR upper for your Glock.
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Glock 19.
Change bullets to fit the application: Defense against people, Defense against bear (Buffalo Bore hard cast), plinking, small game, etc.
The Glock 19 is the answer to most handgun questions. This works for me too, scariest critter in the woods is man. mike r
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Having just acquired a Glock 20, thats going to be our newest answer. Easy to shoot well, not a lot of recoil but more power than a 45 acp... Will handle just about anything and a full load is 16 rounds. Can't really ask for more.
Glock 17 would be 18 rounds ? Of a milder round. Can't see using a 19 when a 20 is around.
But then I've never liked small rounds that much either.
But OTOH I'm dumb enough to see that a TI 22 of some type would be handy small game too...
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You already got the 19 and since you have dies and a bunch of load 38 special ammo, I'd get a Ruger LCRx, 38 special with a 3" barrel.
Weighs a little over a pound ready to roll. Hard to beat a 38 for shooting lots and cheap.
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I carry one of these 357's when I'm in the woods. Dan
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Very light, very accurate small game getter. Volquartsen innards help a lot.
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I'd get a Ruger LCRx, 38 special with a 3" barrel.
Weighs a little over a pound ready to roll. Hard to beat a 38 for shooting lots and cheap. Dang, that is light for a 3-inch revolver. May have to check one out. I still like the .357 doing double-duty as a .38 though.
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Mine shoots well at 20 yards with 160gr bullets.
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Nice. I believe I may have to check one of those out.
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Mine shoots well at 20 yards with 160gr bullets. Mine loves 358429 173 gr keith. I shoot about 4-6k rounds of 38 a year and have given my LCRs a good ringing. I've been impressed with them. I think a short LCRX in 22 or a 3" LCRX 22 would be great.
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LCR 22lr or a 22/45 if you want an auto.
I carried my Witness in 38 super on a hunt this year. Fugger is heavy. I'm thinking I'd like to trade it for a G43. Just don't have much use for full size autos.
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I carry a 360pd, 13oz loaded with 5 rounds of .357. Unnoticeable as it rides on my belt. Never once made the "I won't bring this next time" list after a pack trip.
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Lot of folks might have more experience in the backcountry. But I grew up near Chitina and have spent most of my life in rural Alaska. I have been stuck here in Fairbanks for the last 12 years but for the most part I still get out every summer and do rambling in the woods. I suggest a hi-point 45ACP. Cheap, ugly. Good enough for Black Bear or any bear. Goes bang every time. You would be hard pressed to killed one of them. I have all nature of handguns and rifles but the hipoint fills a certain niche of a gun that you could abuse to the end of the earth and paint it when you get tired of its color.
You run into Deliverance you can pop em and then drop it into a river and nobody would know. A little bird told me that its hard to match the ballistic profile on them.
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