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Paladin was hitting a sixteen inch rectangle at 160 yards with mine with regularity at Armijo Springs a couple three years ago.
I turned down his bid to buy it but have willed it to him. WOW! Dave paladin is one interesting feller for a variety of reasons. I have some slightly, well more than slightly bent, quarters in my desk drawer. The end result of paladin throwing them in the air and hitting them with a .22lr revolver. He is skilled. Strange, he packs a .45acp too much of a dinosaur i guess to run with the 9mm. One of my fond memories is this young woman firing his double barrel rifle in .470 nitro(?). The recoil would throw her back on one foot. Pretty interesting to see him wack stuff way out there with a .45acp too.
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19 below zero forecast for Thursday am. Try oiling your semi auto and leaving it outside overnight in your vehicle. I am betting it will be sluggish. The main reason I prefer revolver, although looking in a snowbank for 9mm brass would not be high on my list for having a good time. whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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19 below zero forecast for Thursday am. Try oiling your semi auto and leaving it outside overnight in your vehicle. I am betting it will be sluggish. The main reason I prefer revolver, although looking in a snowbank for 9mm brass would not be high on my list for having a good time. whelennut Try bringing your pistol inside where you spend the night and it's less likely to be stolen. It's not like you live in a no crime area. Why the Hell you would be looking in a snowbank for 9mm brass in/after a defensive situation also makes no sense.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I have five autos in my truck right now and I can assure everyone they won't run sluggish.
We've been well under zero for a number of days now.
Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I have five autos in my truck right now and I can assure everyone they won't run sluggish.
We've been well under zero for a number of days now.
Dave That's because you might have a clue.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Spray them down with WD40 and you're ready for a Wisconsin winter.
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He's racing to the #1 moron slot pretty quickly.
Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Where did you get the idea that I shoot 9mm?
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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Where did you get the idea that I shoot 9mm? Either your reading comprehension sucks, or you are truly one stupid SOB - or both. Pay attention to the parts in bold. 19 below zero forecast for Thursday am. Try oiling your semi auto and leaving it outside overnight in your vehicle. I am betting it will be sluggish. The main reason I prefer revolver, although looking in a snowbank for 9mm brass would not be high on my list for having a good time. whelennut Try bringing your pistol inside where you spend the night and it's less likely to be stolen. It's not like you live in a no crime area. Why the Hell you would be looking in a snowbank for 9mm brass in/after a defensive situation also makes no sense.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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This was an informative thread early on. Thanks MackayS for your thoughts.
I'm not well trained like many here but try to be very alert to my surroundings, even more when out with my wife. I like to watch the doors and all that, it just seems right and natural to do. Even though she carries I sometimes feel really apprehensive when out with her, that she's mine and no one else's to protect. I value her life over mine. Truly. Not heroic just simple fact.
I carry a Kimber Solo in my pocket and normally have a hand on it when out and about, in places like gas stations or convenience stores, etc.. I am careful with her at public restrooms, making sure she's not alone in there with a bad guy(s). There's times I won't go someplace if I'm not comfortable with her being there. I can't think of a place like that that there isn't another one down the street that may be safer. Why take any unnecessary risk? Having said that, one of our favorite breakfast restaurants is an Elmer's just off the interstate. We get a lot of homeless, meth, heroin, you name it, in that area from the interstate and Walmart a block away. I sit against the wall and watch the door. I hate that it is what it is, but that's the world is going.
I appreciate the food for thought from this thread. It seems like speed of deployment is a huge issue I need to consider thoroughly. These things happen so fast. It also seems like the most time to be gained is by being aware of your surroundings. Seems to be the one thing we can do that can give you the time you need to respond to a deadly threat.
On the NRA/military trainers MS brought up- we took a (ONE) class from an ex-military special forces/judo instructor/NRA certified instructor. What a disaster. I won't go into detail, but what a mess. If we had money and time to travel, I'd go see Clint Smith. Maybe it should be a priority. Thanks again for all the great advice.
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Was the instructor truly former Special Forces?
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Was the instructor truly former Special Forces? Yes he was. We know the family he married into.
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Well darn, SF guys are usually pretty good with instruction because, well, that's a lot of their "business" as SF in the military.
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Was the instructor truly former Special Forces? Yes he was. We know the family he married into. Lots of families believe the BS their son in laws spray... Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Was the instructor truly former Special Forces? Yes he was. We know the family he married into. Lots of families believe the BS their son in laws spray... Dave I've got an uncle like that. We don't believe him, but he's a good source of entertainment during the holidays.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. --Winston Churchill
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Is it just me, or are CHL holders less likely to be the targets of these things in the first place? May be a general situational awareness thing.
There's a lot to be said for the simplicity and reliability of a j-frame. For example if I was on the ground and getting stomped and I was reaching for my handgun a j-frame will cycle even in a coat pocket. For on-the-ground-and-stomped drills, a j-frame would be my first choice.
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I think that if I do buy a Glock it would be a 10mm or 45 acp. I had a 10mm Glock, traded it off recently. When you go to stores that sell ammo, count the amount and variety of .45acp rounds on the shelves, then go look if there's any 10mm available. If there is 10mm on the shelves, take a moment to be surprised, then go compare prices Of course if you usually reload or mail-order your ammo this might not be a concern, but it was for me. Birdwatcher
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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I think that if I do buy a Glock it would be a 10mm or 45 acp. I had a 10mm Glock, traded it off recently. When you go to stores that sell ammo, count the amount and variety of .45acp rounds on the shelves, then go look if there's any 10mm available. If there is 10mm on the shelves, take a moment to be surprised, then go compare prices Of course if you usually reload or mail-order your ammo this might not be a concern, but it was for me. Birdwatcher The Glock 20 will handle .40 S&W as well as 10mm. Not strictly necessary, but I have a dedicated .40 S&W barrel for mine.
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To be concerned about the caliber of your gun when you look at ammo prices is sort of ludicrous. You pay $300-$600 for your gun and worry about $10 bucks extra for a box of 50 rounds. Almost like the guy who buys a Truck with 4 wheel drive and the biggest V-8 he can get then complains about his gas mileage. I am not wealthy, but the last thing I look at is the price on a box of bullets. If you are CC person, one box should do. If you are a target or plinking person, buy a rimfire and get cheap bullets.
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