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Your boy has been attending public indoctrination for several years. Hes probably been indoctrinated at home from tv time as to be somewhat antipathetic towards guns and hunting. That's a whopper of an assumption for folks you know nothing about.
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Antelope
Reasonably priced
Unique and beautiful animal
Success rate near 100%
Physical requirements are low
Have done it many times with rifle and bow and really enjoyed
Oh, and I think the meat is excellent, if you get a quick kill and cool it properly.
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And take the young man with you.
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Your boy has been attending public indoctrination for several years. Hes probably been indoctrinated at home from tv time as to be somewhat antipathetic towards guns and hunting. That's a whopper of an assumption for folks you know nothing about. Sorry. I did assume the boy went to public school and watched tv. Or, maybe i feared it?* Ok, ill admit it. The terms chasing deer and coyotes and "espressed an interest" raised a note of caution with me. So, sue me. 
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The above suggestions of antelope in Wyoming, and cow elk in Colorado are excellent “1st time” western hunting experiences.
Easy tags to draw, relatively inexpensive, reasonably good chance of success.
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We have always let the kids start walking with us at about ten. (No problem with nine if he can do it) At twelve they did the hunter safety course, got a tag and a rifle. They still had to stick close to an adult for a couple of years before we cut them loose so we could see if they were ready to take on the big country alone.
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Your boy has been attending public indoctrination for several years. Hes probably been indoctrinated at home from tv time as to be somewhat antipathetic towards guns and hunting. That's a whopper of an assumption for folks you know nothing about. Sorry. I did assume the boy went to public school and watched tv. I raised three boys who went to public school and watched TV. None came close to having an antipathy toward guns. They all loved to shoot from an early age. Kids naturally love to shoot, even those raised by parents who don't. All they need is exposure to it. Our sons are grown now and they still bug me to take them shooting. It's not rocket science.
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Ok. I was wrong.
Still, i a kid expressed an interest in fishing i wouldnt take him on a 3 day deep sea excursion any more than i would hook him up for an overnight with a hooker if he expressed an interest in grils. Wink.
Smoke, Ricky asked for opinion/ideas. I gave him mine-OK?
I told of what ive seen and not of what i dreamed. I was of course wrong. Im sure all kids are just like yours.
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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No it isn't. But millions of snowflakes just didn't fall from the sky.  At least not those kinds of snowflakes. They came from somewhere, and public schools are perhaps the biggest source of them. PS.. The sad part is that many don't have parents that care enough to show their own children the difference. Your kids are lucky, as are you for having a receptive audience.
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Ok. I was wrong.
Still, i a kid expressed an interest in fishing i wouldnt take him on a 3 day deep sea excursion any more than i would hook him up for an overnight with a hooker if he expressed an interest in grils. Wink. Glad you're not my dad...depriving a kid of a hooker is un-american
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Ok. I was wrong.
Still, i a kid expressed an interest in fishing i wouldnt take him on a 3 day deep sea excursion any more than i would hook him up for an overnight with a hooker if he expressed an interest in grils. Wink. Glad you're not my dad...depriving a kid of a hooker is un-american I was introduced to Boy's Town in Villa Acuna by my dad...
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But you always were a lucky bastid, Barry.
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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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Ok. I was wrong.
Still, i a kid expressed an interest in fishing i wouldnt take him on a 3 day deep sea excursion any more than i would hook him up for an overnight with a hooker if he expressed an interest in grils. Wink. Glad you're not my dad...depriving a kid of a hooker is un-american I was introduced to Boy's Town in Villa Acuna by my dad... Pursuit of happiness and all that, for sure. But i was referring to an overnight experience only. That would have ruined me-more.
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Pursuit of happiness and all that, for sure. But i was referring to an overnight experience only. I had a cheap bastid for a dad... The most he would spring for was 1/2 an hour. Didn't take me that long anyhow...  
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I made the assumption that the 9 year old wasn't already a big game hunter based on the description.
I remember vividly when it was my job to hop out and open fence gates and run errands around camp. Graduating to carrying a rifle was a big deal. By 14 I could do just about everything better than the old man including spotting game, shooting and dragging out deer, cleaning birds and sharpening knives. None of that would have happened without that early exposure that made you want to be a full fledged hunter so bad you could taste it. I was my Grandfathers retriever bird hunting and he would drop them close to the road so I didn't have to run far to pick up birds. I'll never shoot a shotgun nearly as well as he did but it was always fun.
Starting boys before they are able to shoot is a great thing for their development as hunters.
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Definitely take the kid hunting--would start in state if you haven't already. Did take three kids along (usually one or two at a time) from around 5yrs old. Out of state--one at a time.
Maybe it's just me, but out of state hunts were compellingly easy until actually going. Then the pendulum moved to the opposite end of the arc. Hogs or antelope sound good, though--something where the kid (and you) can see a lot of critters.
Nailing something was always more important to me than to the kids
The first thing I learned with the eldest was to simplify everything I could and dial back on my personal indifference to difficulty for the sake on success. Way back...take it easy and it will be fun--and that is the part they talk about as adults, today.
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No it isn't. But millions of snowflakes just didn't fall from the sky. At least not those kinds of snowflakes. They came from somewhere, and public schools are perhaps the biggest source of them. Well, if a kid has a dad who's taking him hunting, I assume he's not a snowflake--not the other way around. PS, Jaguar, the advice to take it easy on the first trip ain't bad. Part of that is to set aside time when the kid can just bang away at targets, pop cans, clay pigeons, or whatever. Guaranteed, he won't have an antipathy toward guns after that. He might not like staying quiet, slogging through the hills, or sitting in a blind for hours, but he'll love the shootin' part.
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Sweet Jesus, it's like a bunch of eyeball's dumbphuk friends have arrived on the 'Fire.
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I made the assumption that the 9 year old wasn't already a big game hunter based on the description.
I remember vividly when it was my job to hop out and open fence gates and run errands around camp. Graduating to carrying a rifle was a big deal. By 14 I could do just about everything better than the old man including spotting game, shooting and dragging out deer, cleaning birds and sharpening knives. None of that would have happened without that early exposure that made you want to be a full fledged hunter so bad you could taste it. I was my Grandfathers retriever bird hunting and he would drop them close to the road so I didn't have to run far to pick up birds. I'll never shoot a shotgun nearly as well as he did but it was always fun.
Starting boys before they are able to shoot is a great thing for their development as hunters. So you said it better than me. Good.
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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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Everyone, google "chasing whitetails"
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