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Here's a little bit of Sunday morning pot stirring for the Campfire.
[url=http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/756870/proof-of-god-kurt-godel][/url]
Scientists use mathematical calculations to PROVE the existence of God SCIENTISTS have ‘confirmed’ the existence of God after proving a mathematician’s theory which suggests that there is a higher power. By Sean Martin PUBLISHED: 03:00, Sun, Jan 22, 2017 | UPDATED: 09:03, Sun, Jan 22, 2017
Two computer scientists say they proved that there is a holy supreme force after confirming the equations.
In 1978, mathematician Kurt Gödel died and left behind a long and complex theory based on modal logic.
Dr Gödel’s model uses mathematical equations that are extremely complicated, but the essence is that no greater power than God can be conceived, and if he or she is believed as a concept then he or she can exist in reality.
Scientists claim to have proof of God
Mathmatician Kurt Gödel established the equation
Renowned physicist finds PROOF of God
Or as Dr Gödel put it through his equations: “Ax. 1. {P(φ)∧◻∀x[φ(x)→ψ(x)]} →P(ψ)Ax. 2.P(¬φ)↔¬P(φ)Th. 1.P(φ)→◊∃x[φ(x)]Df. 1.G(x)⟺∀φ[P(φ)→φ(x)]Ax. 3.P(G)Th. 2.◊∃xG(x)Df. 2.φ ess x⟺φ(x)∧∀ψ{ψ(x)→◻∀y[φ(y)→ψ(y)]}Ax. 4.P(φ)→◻P(φ)Th. 3.G(x)→G ess xDf. 3.E(x)⟺∀φ[φ ess x→◻∃yφ(y)]Ax. 5.P(E)Th. 4.◻∃xG(x)”.
You get it, right?
But two computer scientists have used computers to run such complicated which they say confirms that the equation does indeed add up.
The point of the researchers’ argument was that they were not directly trying to prove the existence of God, but rather to showcase the power of computers.
Christoph Benzmüller of Berlin's Free University, who ran the calculations along with Bruno Woltzenlogel Paleo of the Technical University in Vienna, told Spiegel Online: "It's totally amazing that from this argument led by Gödel, all this stuff can be proven automatically in a few seconds or even less on a standard notebook.
“I didn’t know it would create such a huge public interest but [Gödel’s ontological proof] was definitely a better example than something inaccessible in mathematics or artificial intelligence…
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My proof was Nov,9, 2016 and again on Jan 20, 2017. I held by breath that morning until it was over, thinking something was going to go wrong!!!!!!!
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You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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Here's a little bit of Sunday morning pot stirring for the Campfire.
[url=http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/756870/proof-of-god-kurt-godel][/url]
Scientists use mathematical calculations to PROVE the existence of God SCIENTISTS have ‘confirmed’ the existence of God after proving a mathematician’s theory which suggests that there is a higher power. By Sean Martin PUBLISHED: 03:00, Sun, Jan 22, 2017 | UPDATED: 09:03, Sun, Jan 22, 2017
Two computer scientists say they proved that there is a holy supreme force after confirming the equations.
In 1978, mathematician Kurt Gödel died and left behind a long and complex theory based on modal logic.
Dr Gödel’s model uses mathematical equations that are extremely complicated, but the essence is that no greater power than God can be conceived, and if he or she is believed as a concept then he or she can exist in reality.
Scientists claim to have proof of God
Mathmatician Kurt Gödel established the equation
Renowned physicist finds PROOF of God
Or as Dr Gödel put it through his equations: “Ax. 1. {P(φ)∧◻∀x[φ(x)→ψ(x)]} →P(ψ)Ax. 2.P(¬φ)↔¬P(φ)Th. 1.P(φ)→◊∃x[φ(x)]Df. 1.G(x)⟺∀φ[P(φ)→φ(x)]Ax. 3.P(G)Th. 2.◊∃xG(x)Df. 2.φ ess x⟺φ(x)∧∀ψ{ψ(x)→◻∀y[φ(y)→ψ(y)]}Ax. 4.P(φ)→◻P(φ)Th. 3.G(x)→G ess xDf. 3.E(x)⟺∀φ[φ ess x→◻∃yφ(y)]Ax. 5.P(E)Th. 4.◻∃xG(x)”.
You get it, right?
But two computer scientists have used computers to run such complicated which they say confirms that the equation does indeed add up.
The point of the researchers’ argument was that they were not directly trying to prove the existence of God, but rather to showcase the power of computers.
Christoph Benzmüller of Berlin's Free University, who ran the calculations along with Bruno Woltzenlogel Paleo of the Technical University in Vienna, told Spiegel Online: "It's totally amazing that from this argument led by Gödel, all this stuff can be proven automatically in a few seconds or even less on a standard notebook.
“I didn’t know it would create such a huge public interest but [Gödel’s ontological proof] was definitely a better example than something inaccessible in mathematics or artificial intelligence…
I don't know about proving the existence of God, but it's a pretty good explanation of why mathematicians never get laid.
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You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around. +1
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A person's consciousness proves it.
Configure a stack of meat any way you want. It won't become self aware by itself.
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So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy?
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy? Trolling again? What God calls Himself isn't the problem; it's how those that claim to follow Him act. Mind your business, and all will be well.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around. +1 +2 God makes it simple and easy. Man does his best to screw it up.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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A person's consciousness proves it.
Configure a stack of meat any way you want. It won't become self aware by itself. Thats it in a nutshell. The "breath of life". What is it? and how does it animate a collection of tissue and organs snd limbs into consciousness. If you crack open a body, you cannot locate it.
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Trump HAD the World, ", Trump saw our children, " Trump saw a way to make a brighter day so he started giving There was a choice he was making, he was saving our own lives Its true he made a brighter day for you and me. --Trump WINS 2016
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You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around. +1 +2 God makes it simple and easy. Man does his best to screw it up. +3 ...
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My proof is that Hillary lost.
Can I get an Amen?
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"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom." MOLON LABE
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My proof is that Hillary lost.
Can I get an Amen? i can live with that as proof enough. without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on. or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed.
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My proof is that Hillary lost.
Can I get an Amen? i can live with that as proof enough. without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on. or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed. Cogito ergo sum.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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My proof is that Hillary lost.
Can I get an Amen? i can live with that as proof enough. without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on. or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed. Cogito ergo sum. Right over the head of most.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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My proof is that Hillary lost.
Can I get an Amen? i can live with that as proof enough. without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on. or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed. Cogito ergo sum. Right over the head of most. shoot low boys, they're riding shetland ponies.
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So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy? I've always known Allah is real. That's just one name, the others are Lucifer, Satan, The Evil One.
The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.
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My proof is that Hillary lost.
Can I get an Amen? i can live with that as proof enough. without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on. or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed. Cogito ergo sum. Ipso facto Rene.
"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom." MOLON LABE
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So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy? I've always known Allah is real. That's just one name, the others are Lucifer, Satan, The Evil One. What name shall a Christian invoke as he prays, if the only language he knows is Arabic?
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around. Well...I just did that, and all I saw was a skiff of snow and a cottontail grazing in my yard.
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Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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