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Government and the press have nearly always had a type of love/hate relationship. Trump would be better served by pressure, than brute force. The press is covered by the 1st Amendment, and Trump will not have an easy time with anything he attempts to force on the press. This has been upheald by the Supreme several times. http://study.com/academy/lesson/what-is-freedom-of-the-press-definition-history-examples.html......"Definition (of freedom of the press) Imagine that you are a journalist writing a news story about a political figure who is suspected of corruption. You speak to many of his aides, former colleagues, and business associates, all who wish to remain anonymous. The government finds out about your investigation, and since it is a sensitive topic with serious ramifications for top officials at the White House, they attempt to legally block you from publishing it. But you refuse to comply, invoking the freedom of the press. Freedom of the press is the right to circulate opinions in print without censorship by the government. Americans enjoy freedom of the press under the First Amendment to the Constitution, which states: 'Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech or of the press.' History Back in 1735, there was a case involving John Peter Zenger, a journalist and publisher of the New York Weekly Journal. Zenger was sued for libel after publishing critical stories about public officials, but this famous case was overturned. This case established the right of the press to criticize public officials, and it also indicated that true statements are a valid defense when sued for libel. Thereafter, in 1791, the First Amendment was established. This Amendment is the basis of the freedom of the press. During the early 1900s and World War I, two legislative acts were passed to regulate free speech. These acts, the Espionage Act and the Sedition Act, were enacted in order to censor pro-German, socialist, or pacifist publications. However, in 1931, the Supreme Court held that virtually all forms of restraint on free speech were unconstitutional. In the advent of the Cold War in the mid-1900s, news organizations worked to disclose information such as public records relating to wars. These efforts were designed to promote the policy that failing to release information to the public constitutes a threat to the freedom of the press. Thereafter, in the early 1970s, during Vietnam and the Nixon administration, frequent discussions occurred between news agencies and the government. In 1971, a Supreme Court case entitled New York Times v. United States established the significant rights of the press. In this case, the government sought to suppress classified documents known as the Pentagon Papers. These papers included classified information about the Vietnam War. The New York Times fought against the government's effort to prevent publication, and the Supreme Court upheld the freedom of the press and its First Amendment rights to speech. Thus, the Pentagon Papers were released. Over time, the freedom of the press has been tested repeatedly in the legal system. Examples Examples of freedom of the press abound. One example revolves around the shock jocks who host radio programs. Shock jocks are radio disc jockeys with strong opinions and critiques; typically, they discuss hot or taboo topics. These individuals sometimes provide harsh criticisms of the government or other public figures. However, this speech is protected as freedom of the press under the First Amendment.".....
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Pull their license To broadcast on our airwaves!
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I used to have this as my sig line...
Freedom of the Press Does not mean the right to lie
Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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people have done dumber things than jeff sucker, I just cant think of one off the top of my head. what hubris
perhaps a hefty fine or two imposed by the FCC would help mr sucker see things in greater clarity.
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When the dust settles President Trump will have his ARRS feathered stuck on a stick and use it to clean the dust out of the White House.
President Trump has already proved that he will do things his was with the Congress's help.
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"The perception of Donald Trump in capitals around the world is shaped, in many ways, by CNN. Continuing to have an adversarial relationship with that network is a mistake." Would you call this a threat, bribery, or just plain blackmail? He's sticking his neck way too far out with this president.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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Time Warner is CNN's parent company and is trying to merge with At&t... Trump opposes the merger.. How fast will Time tell sucker to STFU?
Speak softly and use a big bore... Where's El Cid when we need him...
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They should hire Rosie, Madonna and Ashley Judd as anchors... Well, got to admit Rosie would hold a YYUUUUGGGGGEEEE ship in place.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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CNN is going to lose this battle.
Biggly For sure. CNN is playing poker, but with far less than a full deck. I really don't think they've grasped that the liberal slander tactics of the past several decades against the GOP doesn't work with Trump. In fact, it strengthens his resolve. Trump bees Honey Badger. He should cut them out of WH press breifings and anyone else who feeds them the story.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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The First Amendment only applies to Congress. "Congress shall make no law . . ."
President Trump can control the press at his press conferences as he sees fit.
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
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That sounds like they are threatning to damage the econonic and foreign policy of our country. That in my opinion is bordering on terrorism. Technically it is probably Sedition.
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I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
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kellory - censorship is verboten. First-line access to the White House is something else. And that could be a two-edged sword also. Victimhood-R-Us, etc. There is always social media of course - who you gonna believe - someone who tweets directly or a biased filter? Which is also a 2-edged sword, if one is as bombastic as Trump.. He needs to think twice and choose his battles, as well as his words. Not that I don't enjoy the hell out of the whole situation.
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"Trump bees Honey Badger. He should cut them out of WH press breifings and anyone else who feeds them the story."
Yeah, but the bustards are a gang. One wonders which way they will fall.
The only true cost of having a dog is its death.
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I hope President Trump bans them from any and all press conferences! For good!
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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His press breifings are going on tha innanet and will include news pipple many miles from the perennial press conference room.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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So CNN is admitting that they want to influence both home and foreign perceptions of political reality based upon their treatment by a politician?
Kind of sounds like what they are accusing the Russians of doing.
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I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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So my wife is not finding any news agencies reporting on the bombings in Syria and Iraq. Is there a media blackout? (against Trump)
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CNN is just testing their limits at the outset so they know if Trump will "play ball" with them.
It's best they both make it plain where they stand early on.
CNN thinks perception is reality and they can shape perception.
I don't think they're as relevant as they used to be, apparently, neither does Trump.
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I can see a possible positive outcome out of all this.
As noted already, the Prez and the press have always had a strained relationship, two entities who pretend to get along but secretly despise each other.
Now they have a knock down, drag out fight, both get bloodied, but when it's all over they've cleared their differences, shake hands and come out on genuinely friendly or at least genuinely respectful terms.
I know the guys in question aren't in the schoolyard but human nature doesn't change much from school kids to CEO's. Sometimes a good fight really clears the air in situations like this.
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Sucker gets his ass kicked so badly he doesn't come back and the other kids standing around watching learn a lesson about who not to mess with.
The first outcome is preferable but either is acceptable.
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
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