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200 gr RN is my favorite bullet for 358 on deer.
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Dave - no disrespect at all.
The last time I used a RN was in a 94, that was 1974.
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The Hornady .25 cal 117 gr Roundnose is probably my favorite whitetail bullet. Its been accurate in every cartridge I've used it in. Even works out of the small .223 cased 25-45 Sharps. I've had great success with that bullet also, both in terms of accuracy and terminal performance.
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Seems to me that John B., either in an article or a post here, took the wind out of the sails of the idea that pointy bullets were all that much ballistically superior to round nose bullets for any kind of hunting purposes.
There's no doubt that round nose bullets just look a lot cooler in many cartridges.
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I use them for sub-sonic loads
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I've used them in a lot of rifles. 150gr, 154gr, 117gr, 180gr, 165gr, 250gr. From .25-.358cal.
They all worked great at the -50 yards I've shot deer with them.
The only deer that took a step after being shot with them was the 117gr in .257 Roberts.
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I used 180 grain RN Core-lokt factory loads in my 30-06 for deer before. They worked great. They kill hell outta elk too!
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I would think that there is not a lot of difference under 200 yards or so
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For my part, I have not found any great discernable difference between spitzer and round nose bullets at any range I have tried, even at 1000 yds. I find that boat tails vs flat base do show enough difference to merit some discussion, depending on velocities and distance. At my normal hunting ranges, niether are of great concern to me. Still fun to argue though!
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Dave - no disrespect at all.
The last time I used a RN was in a 94, that was 1974.
Jerry None taken.
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I have not found any great discernable difference between spitzer and round nose bullets at any range I have tried, even at 1000 yds.
find that boat tails vs flat base do show enough difference to merit some discussion, depending on velocities and distance.
I'm NOT saying I don't believe you but... past 200 yds--that's hard to believe. NOTE - I admit I haven't used ANY R N in any CF except 30-30 SO I have not tried them. ***It seems to me that IF a minor diff in the BT makes some diff>>>>>R N vs "Spritzers" outta show up. AGAIN, I haven't tried them. --------------------- Dave WV - thank you. Jerry
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200 Hornady worked great in my TC Contender Carbine .35 rem.
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I have not found any great discernable difference between spitzer and round nose bullets at any range I have tried, even at 1000 yds.
find that boat tails vs flat base do show enough difference to merit some discussion, depending on velocities and distance.
I'm NOT saying I don't believe you but... past 200 yds--that's hard to believe. NOTE - I admit I have used ANY R N in any CF except 30-30 SO I have not tried them. ***It seems to me that IF a minor diff in the BT makes some diff>>>>>R N vs "Spritzers" outta show up. AGAIN, I haven't tried them. Jerry Don't get me wrong, I haven't done any indepth studies of this either. When I lived in Walsenburg, CO, I didn't have alot of discretionary money, so I spent a lot of weekends at Whittington Center cause housing on non-competative weekends was cheap. I would reload all kinds of weird combinations of stuff to play with on the various ranges. On the 1000 yd range I really didn't see much difference. Maybe a 16" group vs a 14" group, hard to tell on a box or two of ammo at that range with poor optics to site with. Now the BT bullets vs FB did show some greater differences in grouping and amount of drop at that range, but there again this was small samples with poor optics and plain hunting rifles. Lot of variables in all that, but enough to convince me that at normal hunting ranges of 50 to 450 yds, it really doesn't matter that much as long as the combination of componets works accurately with your equipment and you have the skill to release it accurately. Just my humble opinion.
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Watch out!
The rifle and ammunition companies have sold "American Sniper" to us for some time, they may see this and start a "Retro" fad to get sales moving again.
Iron sights, round nose bullets....yikes!!
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Iron sights or low power scopes, round nose bullets, wearing wool, hunting into the wind, still hunting ....yikes!!
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I mistakenly picked up a box of 150 gr Corelokt bullets several years ago meaning to get pointed bullets. I was out of town and not worth trying to return them. I loaded them at about 2400 fps for my 308. Accuracy was acceptable, but not anything to brag about and I'm sure they'd kill a deer if I hit one. I still have a few loaded up and used them for plinking at the range.
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I thought anything less slippery than a VLD bullet would not have enough energy at 100 yards to even penetrate a deer, much less kill it.
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I've been using the 154 RN's in my 7mm-08 for many years and when discontinued by Hornady bought 6 boxes on closeout. At Northeast deer ranges, they work great and very accurate, never caught one in a deer. At 7mm-08 velocities I would not hesitate to take on a moose or elk. Years ago I shot the 150, 165 and 180's in 308's and 30-06's and never had a gun not shoot them accuaretly
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I thought anything less slippery than a VLD bullet would not have enough energy at 100 yards to even penetrate a deer, much less kill it. Yeah, there's that whole "way over penetration" thing.
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