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I carry a Keltec with hydrashoks everyday so I guess yes

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In my opinion. there are just too many really good, small 9mm platforms available these days that are not much bigger/heavier than available 380 platforms. So I carry 9mm or 38+P at a minimum.

YMMV...


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Originally Posted by 1Nut
In my opinion. there are just too many really good, small 9mm platforms available these days that are not much bigger/heavier than available 380 platforms. So I carry 9mm or 38+P at a minimum.

YMMV...
what 9 or 38 is as small or light as a Keltec 3AT ?

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So who owns a Ruger LCP 380? Geez for just over 200 bucks, why not.


I do.


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I am going to have to take a closer look at those Lay Cee Panty Pistols. Lol

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Originally Posted by blanket
Originally Posted by 1Nut
In my opinion. there are just too many really good, small 9mm platforms available these days that are not much bigger/heavier than available 380 platforms. So I carry 9mm or 38+P at a minimum.

YMMV...
what 9 or 38 is as small or light as a Keltec 3AT ?


I said "not much bigger/heavier".

But:
a DB9 is .4" longer, .5" taller, .03" wider and less than 3 oz heavier.

Taurus 709 Slim is the same height, .7 longer and less by .02 in width while weighing 1 oz more.

Beretta Nano and SCCY CPX1 are roughly .5" taller and longer with similar width. The SCCY is full 1 inch wide but holds 10 rounds.

I'll take the small trade-off in size and shoot 9mm vs 380. BUT as I also said, that's my opinion.

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Me and yes. The .38 stopped him and the partners .357 ended His criminal career. This was in the dark ages before all the crunchinticker high cap pistols were the rage. We were only allowed Colt or S&W revolvers with a 4" bbl, period. Twelve extra rounds on our belt.

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I have had any number of those flex lead saps. Had is the word. I kept leaving them in patrol cars and they got legs and walked away.
i tried to find a version like in your picture couldn't find one.
of another version with brown leather more of a palm shape and rigid.
if you know where i could buy one let me know.


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I got one of those S&W holsters.

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O.K.

Who has actually had to shoot someone? Did what you have work?


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by T LEE
Me and yes. The .38 stopped him and the partners .357 ended His criminal career. This was in the dark ages before all the crunchinticker high cap pistols were the rage. We were only allowed Colt or S&W revolvers with a 4" bbl, period. Twelve extra rounds on our belt.

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Cool memorabilia of your career, Terry.

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I like this. Every source that I read that goes down the path of 'what if you need more', when there will always be another scenario where there's one more guy than bullet.


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Agreed.


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Originally Posted by RoninPhx
t lee:

I have had any number of those flex lead saps. Had is the word. I kept leaving them in patrol cars and they got legs and walked away.
i tried to find a version like in your picture couldn't find one.
of another version with brown leather more of a palm shape and rigid.
if you know where i could buy one let me know.


Do you mean cops actually stealing from other cops? grin


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How do I emphatically 'like' that?!


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by RoninPhx
t lee:

I have had any number of those flex lead saps. Had is the word. I kept leaving them in patrol cars and they got legs and walked away.
i tried to find a version like in your picture couldn't find one.
of another version with brown leather more of a palm shape and rigid.
if you know where i could buy one let me know.


Do you mean cops actually stealing from other cops? grin


Gear adrift is gear agift.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by local_dirt
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t lee:

I have had any number of those flex lead saps. Had is the word. I kept leaving them in patrol cars and they got legs and walked away.
i tried to find a version like in your picture couldn't find one.
of another version with brown leather more of a palm shape and rigid.
if you know where i could buy one let me know.


Do you mean cops actually stealing from other cops? grin


Gear adrift is gear agift.




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Thought so. grin


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And of course, there's only one thief at this station, everybody else is just trying to get their schit back.




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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Sure don't , "youngest" sap I own is a late sixties "Denver" flat sap. I do still have my grandpop's all powdered lead "kosh".


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