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I carry a Keltec with hydrashoks everyday so I guess yes
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In my opinion. there are just too many really good, small 9mm platforms available these days that are not much bigger/heavier than available 380 platforms. So I carry 9mm or 38+P at a minimum.
YMMV...
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In my opinion. there are just too many really good, small 9mm platforms available these days that are not much bigger/heavier than available 380 platforms. So I carry 9mm or 38+P at a minimum.
YMMV... what 9 or 38 is as small or light as a Keltec 3AT ?
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So who owns a Ruger LCP 380? Geez for just over 200 bucks, why not. I do.
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"Don't believe everything you see on the Internet" - Abraham Lincoln
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I am going to have to take a closer look at those Lay Cee Panty Pistols. Lol
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In my opinion. there are just too many really good, small 9mm platforms available these days that are not much bigger/heavier than available 380 platforms. So I carry 9mm or 38+P at a minimum.
YMMV... what 9 or 38 is as small or light as a Keltec 3AT ? I said "not much bigger/heavier". But: a DB9 is .4" longer, .5" taller, .03" wider and less than 3 oz heavier. Taurus 709 Slim is the same height, .7 longer and less by .02 in width while weighing 1 oz more. Beretta Nano and SCCY CPX1 are roughly .5" taller and longer with similar width. The SCCY is full 1 inch wide but holds 10 rounds. I'll take the small trade-off in size and shoot 9mm vs 380. BUT as I also said, that's my opinion.
Last edited by 1Nut; 02/13/17.
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Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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Me and yes. The .38 stopped him and the partners .357 ended His criminal career. This was in the dark ages before all the crunchinticker high cap pistols were the rage. We were only allowed Colt or S&W revolvers with a 4" bbl, period. Twelve extra rounds on our belt. As you can see, I have served two departments in my time both in IL and FL.
George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!
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t lee:
I have had any number of those flex lead saps. Had is the word. I kept leaving them in patrol cars and they got legs and walked away. i tried to find a version like in your picture couldn't find one. of another version with brown leather more of a palm shape and rigid. if you know where i could buy one let me know.
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I got one of those S&W holsters.
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O.K.
Who has actually had to shoot someone? Did what you have work? Yes, and yes.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Me and yes. The .38 stopped him and the partners .357 ended His criminal career. This was in the dark ages before all the crunchinticker high cap pistols were the rage. We were only allowed Colt or S&W revolvers with a 4" bbl, period. Twelve extra rounds on our belt. As you can see, I have served two departments in my time both in IL and FL. Cool memorabilia of your career, Terry. Official Police?
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I like this. Every source that I read that goes down the path of 'what if you need more', when there will always be another scenario where there's one more guy than bullet.
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t lee:
I have had any number of those flex lead saps. Had is the word. I kept leaving them in patrol cars and they got legs and walked away. i tried to find a version like in your picture couldn't find one. of another version with brown leather more of a palm shape and rigid. if you know where i could buy one let me know. Do you mean cops actually stealing from other cops?
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How do I emphatically 'like' that?!
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t lee:
I have had any number of those flex lead saps. Had is the word. I kept leaving them in patrol cars and they got legs and walked away. i tried to find a version like in your picture couldn't find one. of another version with brown leather more of a palm shape and rigid. if you know where i could buy one let me know. Do you mean cops actually stealing from other cops? Gear adrift is gear agift. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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t lee:
I have had any number of those flex lead saps. Had is the word. I kept leaving them in patrol cars and they got legs and walked away. i tried to find a version like in your picture couldn't find one. of another version with brown leather more of a palm shape and rigid. if you know where i could buy one let me know. Do you mean cops actually stealing from other cops? Gear adrift is gear agift. Dave Thought so.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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And of course, there's only one thief at this station, everybody else is just trying to get their schit back.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Sure don't , "youngest" sap I own is a late sixties "Denver" flat sap. I do still have my grandpop's all powdered lead "kosh".
George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!
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I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me
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