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They better get Peelosi, Maxine Waters and Feinstein out there to start filling sandbags.
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This will end up being a "dam version" of a nuclear meltdown.
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Maybe i am missing something but why did they not repair the damaged spillway when they diverted the water to the other one.
They have ways to make concrete set very fast.
Hope no one gets hurt. You definitely ARE missing something, both spillways are running a raging torrent,....you have concrete that'll "set" under that ? GTC
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officials initially assured the public that evacuations would not be necessary, because the damage to the normal spillway appeared limited. They repeated those assurances on Saturday as the emergency spillway was used for the first time since the dam’s construction in 1968.
Now, however, local ABC News affiliate KRCR reports that state officials warn
I'm shocked to my very heart and soul that the "Officials" could not be trusted,.....
Anyhow,...OBEY OFFICIALS, it's the California way
kidding aside, prayers for those in harms way.
....a POX on politically motivated "Officials", and their puppet masters, as well.
GTC I think the spillway was in good shape until the water started to spill over and erode the base away. First time the spillway had ever been used.
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First time the spillway had ever been used. I hope CA kept the original sales receipt..
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Maybe i am missing something but why did they not repair the damaged spillway when they diverted the water to the other one.
They have ways to make concrete set very fast.
Hope no one gets hurt. You definitely ARE missing something, both spillways are running a raging torrent,....you have concrete that'll "set" under that ? GTC You be missing something too. They completely shut off the main spillway yesterday to inspect the damage. I suppose that's when he is talking about.
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That sinkhole in the main spillway isn't a crater from a bomb hit, it's a COLLAPSE of the sub-grade. For a collapse of that scale to transpire, there has to be a LOT of water making it's way from out from under that dam already,....DEEP underneath.
The implications of a potential "blowout" right down at or below the reservoirs bottom are not at all good IMHO.
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The least of which is the immediate aftermath, an entire regions water supply sits behind that dam. Implications are dire in a worst case scenario.
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Sounds like a good time for Trump to negotiate that sanctuary thingy.....
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Read about the Johnstown flood. It will put these things in perspective. Johnstown Flood From Wikipedia, The Johnstown Flood (locally, the Great Flood of 1889) occurred on May 31, 1889, after the catastrophic failure of the South Fork Dam on the Little Conemaugh River 14 miles (23 km) upstream of the town of Johnstown, Pennsylvania. The dam broke after several days of extremely heavy rainfall, releasing 20 million tons (18 million cubic meters) of water from the reservoir known as Lake Conemaugh. With a volumetric flow rate that temporarily equalled that of the Mississippi River,[2] the flood killed 2,209 people[3] and caused US$17 million of damage (about $450 million in 2015 dollars). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood
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I think the spillway was in good shape until the water started to spill over and erode the base away. First time the spillway had ever been used.
Translation to non P.C. American English, ....The spillway was a poorly built product of lousy engineering, a true POS. It's bloody well not the first time we've seen this kinda' rodeo, either. Leaves me thinking back to the collapse of the freeway in Oakland, and wondering how much re-bar money went into the pockets of the pols, v. the actual concrete that's now failed.
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News updates are calling the situation as being "uncontrollable". Looks like Mother Nature may win another one. Inundation map:
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From what I've read and seen video of, replacing the spillway isn't going to be a quick patch job, more like years of work and huge money. If the entire dam lets go, it could end up being one of the biggest disasters in modern history.
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Maybe i am missing something but why did they not repair the damaged spillway when they diverted the water to the other one.
They have ways to make concrete set very fast.
Hope no one gets hurt. You definitely ARE missing something, both spillways are running a raging torrent,....you have concrete that'll "set" under that ? GTC You be missing something too. They completely shut off the main spillway yesterday to inspect the damage. I suppose that's when he is talking about. Not a civil engineer, but guessing that any new concrete that would have been poured would have scoured away in minutes. Massive quantities of fast water is pretty powerful stuff.
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Cross,what i am getting at is the damage did not happen overnight.
It had to be going on for a while before they found it.
The way the so-called news read was that they had shut down the regular spillway down because of fears that it would wash out.
Just seems to me that if they did shut it down some type of damage control could have been done. That's all.
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First time it's been used?
What? Never a test run?
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The least of which is the immediate aftermath, an entire regions water supply sits behind that dam. Implications are dire in a worst case scenario.
Are you under the impression that a fleet of heavy skycranes, the buckets from which to airdrop that much concrete, and that much concrete are kept somewhere, "Just in case ?". Get real, this is COMPLETELY indefensible. GTC
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I can imagine the level of finger pointing will be "big league". Certainly it will be blamed on some level of Republican intransigence to deny proper funding for upkeep and repair.
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Maybe i am missing something but why did they not repair the damaged spillway when they diverted the water to the other one.
They have ways to make concrete set very fast.
Hope no one gets hurt. You definitely ARE missing something, both spillways are running a raging torrent,....you have concrete that'll "set" under that ? GTC You be missing something too. They completely shut off the main spillway yesterday to inspect the damage. I suppose that's when he is talking about. Not a civil engineer, but guessing that any new concrete that would have been poured would have scoured away in minutes. Massive quantities of fast water is pretty powerful stuff. I'm not saying they could have patched it. Just that yesterday it was completely shut off. No water was coming down it. The pictures I saw showed severe erosion underneath it, along the sides of it, and a hole you could have put several dump trucks in.
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First time the spillway had ever been used. I hope CA kept the original sales receipt.. It's not going to fail, they have been predicting within the hour for the last three hours..they are just CYA
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