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He is a Jesuit Lefty, go figure. Other peoples' money. * Bankers' best guesses about the Vatican's wealth put it at $10 billion to $15 billion. After about 18 centuries thats not really much of a bankroll. And innacurate by trillions for the largest land owner on earth. Somebody wants to preach to me they can read from THE HOLY BIBLE.
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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Catholic bashing threads always turn out well.
This has potential.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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The Pope carefully crafts his words but the intent in very clear. He is completely anti populist and a globalist elite. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/17/pope-francis-donald-trump-letter-condemning-populism The Pope appears to back anti-Trump protests in letter condemning populism Pope Francis has offered his unequivocal support to grassroots organisers and activists who are fighting for social justice, migrants, and environmentalism, saying he “reaffirms” their choice to fight against tyranny amid a “gutting of democracies”.
“As Christians and all people of good will, it is for us to live and act at this moment. It is a grave responsibility, since certain present realities, unless effectively dealt with, are capable of setting off processes of dehumanisation which would then be hard to reverse,” the pontiff wrote in a letter that was read to organisers this week.
The remarks can be viewed as a clear endorsement by the Argentinian pope of resistance against populist and xenophobic political movements. While he did not name Donald Trump, and stressed his remarks were not targeted at any individual politician, the letter, read at the opening of the US Regional World Meeting of Popular Movements in Modesto, California, seem to speak directly to protests against the Republican president.
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Catholic bashing threads always turn out well.
This has potential. I think it more as Pope bashing that he has brought upon himself.
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Catholic bashing threads always turn out well.
This has potential. I think it more as Pope bashing that he has brought upon himself. Yeah, I didn't see it as Catholic bashing. This a Pope bashing. He's been one of the more vocal Popes....not immune to criticism.
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New Catechism par 841 iirc says in essence muzzies can go to Heaven because they have the faith of Abraham. They do share an Abrahamic blessing thru Ishmael. But, the Abrahamic Covenant pointing down thru time to Jesus is the true Faith of Abraham. There are a lot of sons of Abraham who were(are) enemies of the Faith. There is only one door to the Kingdom of God, very clearly spelled out in Scripture, the Seed of Abraham, Jesus. Isaac was the Seed of Promise, Ishmael, the seed of flesh. That's pretty basic Christianity. Anything else isn't Christianity at all, regardless of what someone calls it. IMO. DF
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You guys lost me at Pope. Not bashing, just being a realist.
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No DF, though i hate to disagree with a part of what you said. Ishmael was the son of Abram and muzzies claim a common God and heritage from it.
Actually it isnt me disagreeing with you but well respected christian bible scholars i happen to agree with.
Abram was reborn, remade and renamed Abraham. Ishmael was Abrams first son, not Abrahams first born.
Also, God had prophecied Abrahams son (if iirc the first) would be the lineage of David and Jesus though i dont remember the exact scripture.
I will admit there is room for disagreement and you may be right, but too many dont associate the name change as having any significance.
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Wait...
The Catholic Church...making ANY statement, anywhere, at any time, about honoring the rights of indigenous people?
Whether about DAPL or anything else...
YHGTBFKM.... well, he could talk about what his own order of jesuits have done through the centuries in south america with the indian population.
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"Indigenous" is such a subjective term. My family pioneered, and settled, in Texas almost 200 years ago. Almost all of their (our) land was seized via eminent domain to make Sam Rayburn Reservoir in the mid-1900's.
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No DF, though i hate to disagree with a part of what you said. Ishmael was the son of Abram and muzzies claim a common God and heritage from it.
Actually it isnt me disagreeing with you but well respected christian bible scholars i happen to agree with.
Abram was reborn, remade and renamed Abraham. Ishmael was Abrams first son, not Abrahams first born.
Also, God had prophecied Abrahams son (if iirc the first) would be the lineage of David and Jesus though i dont remember the exact scripture.
I will admit there is room for disagreement and you may be right, but too many dont associate the name change as having any significance. I see what you're saying, Abram vs. Abraham. Abram representing the fleshly man, Abraham the regenerated, Spritual man. One could say Ishmael was first born of the flesh, Issac was first born of the Spiritual. Or, as in the first Adam vs. the last Adam (Jesus), there are types and shadows of "first the flesh, then the Spiritual" thruout the Bible. Esau/Jacob, Saul/David, Manasseh/Ephraim, there are a number of "first the flesh, then the Spiritual" examples in Scripture. DF
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I'm no map genius, but this looks like it is north of the reservation - on private property! ![[Linked Image]](http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab311/bizypix/Dakota-Access-Pipele-Private-Land-Map-2_zpseugvwmed.png) What difference do facts make to the Left? !
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I'm no map genius, but this looks like it is north of the reservation - on private property! What difference do facts make to the Left? ! Not much. It's all agenda driven... DF
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I miss the German Polish Pope. He. Had it right.
This Pope is a product of Peronist populism
Fixed it for you
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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This^^^. Hell is much lower.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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I'm no map genius, but this looks like it is north of the reservation - on private property! What difference do facts make to the Left? ! Not much. It's all agenda driven... DF The tribes claim most of the upper midwest as part of their heritage, especially in areas that have either a difference in terrain, or there is water near it.....maybe we should just deed the entire country back to Great Britain, and Spain....and let their lawyers fight over it.....<sarcasm
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You guys ought that learn to read. FAKE NEWS
Abroad statement of the rights of indigenous peoples
No statement at all about DAPL
In fact the Fox news article states he made no direct reference to DAPL Ahhh... Fake news... Who'd a thunk...  DF If it's fake news, then about every news outlet in the world interpreted what he did the same way. Even the more credible ones. Were his statements about terrorism, or denial of it inaccurate and misinterpreted as well?
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Sadly, the Pontiff seems to have forgotten the concept of looking at both sides objectively before coming to a decision... Sadly, the Pontiff seems to have forgotten the history of his evil organization's pogroms against indigenous peoples. Maybe he should issue an apology for the atrocities the church committed against them before he starts pretending to be on their side.
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I miss the German Polish Pope. He. Had it right.
This Pope is a product of Peronist populism
Fixed it for you +1 IMO, John Paul was the most Spiritual Pope in my lifetime. That man had an aura about him. DF
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