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I'm still using a solar powered Texas Instruments hand calculator that adds, subtracts, divides and multiplies, plus does percentages and square roots and some memory functions that work off of a stack, and that's it. Hewlett Packard fan myself. Got an 11C close at hand as we speak. RPN kicks ass. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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I get my bills in the mail, and then pay them online. It's easier, faster, and easier to prove in the event of a dispute.
But I don't (can't) take any electronics on the job with me. I still do a lot of figuring with a pencil and a piece of a box, or some soapstone on the side of a duct or column. Younger engineering types get elastic eyebrows...
"Chances Will Be Taken"
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Campfire Outfitter
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Hewlett Packard fan myself. Got an 11C close at hand as we speak. RPN kicks ass. miles I don't think I'll ever be able to wean myself from RPN. Still run a 15C Engineering/Scientific model. Did a lot of manual drafting coming out of college. Koh-i-noor ink pens, Leroy lettering templates, French curves, highway curve templates. AutoCAD and desktop computers were a godsend.
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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You guys are fancy, my needs are simpler.
If Walmart sells toothpaste in a 3.2 oz tube for $2.47 or a large economy size 7.4 oz tube for $5.81, which one is cheaper per ounce? And I know they do those oddball sizes on purpose just to make it harder to figure out in your head.
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If my sight radius is 23.5" and my group is 5" low at 100 yards, how many turns of a 40 tpi adjustment screw does it take to move the group on target?
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery.
Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
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Mechanical drawing was my love during high school. Mine too. I took drafting in the 10-12th grades. There was none of that CAD stuff back then. Draw 'em in pencil then ink them in. Mike
Always talk to the old guys , they know stuff.
Jerry Miculek
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i always have writing materials
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I reckon if times get hard, I can sit on a street corner with a cupful of them for sale...... Or sell them on e-bay as antiques...........  Interesting thread . . . I still have 6 or 7 drafting pencils with different leads in them (2H, 4H and HB as well as red, yellow and green) have a rotating sharpener to keep the point right. Several Pentel mechanical pencils. 3 or 4 triangular scales, a drawer full of triangles and templates. 4 sets of compasses and two T-squares. 36" x 48" drafting table w/ drafting machine and a bunch of scales. Electric erasers made mistake changing much easier, but still left shadows for the Diazo machine to print out . . . Made my living with them until about 1991 and we switched to AutoCad. My drafting supplies don't get much use these days but I can't get rid of them. Used to do complete structural design calcs with paper, pencil, slide rule and the "built in head calculator". Old dinosaurs are hard to kill, apparently . And KE Rapidograph pens for making fine even lines. Liked KE wooden slip sticks too.
Ed
A person who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes the person who never asks is a fool forever.
The worst slaves are those that put the chains on themselves.
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In the Marine Corps, the office clerks called hole reinforcers "paper azzholes" and White-Out was called "pigeon poop". When I was a REAL telephone man, not a pack swapper, we used paper azzholes to tag the leads we lifted when we changed out defective relays. Wrote the contact numbers on the little rings. I always licked them to make sure they stuck, but some guys just hung them on the wire ends. One sneeze and it was Oh Sh*t time.
What fresh Hell is this?
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Campfire Ranger
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I have a couple of LNIB 48GX's, anybody interested?  All I can say if any of you were 4th gen in office supplies you'd have stores full of this kind of CRAP. I do, old stuff, in original boxes put away. One day I'll flood Ebay with it. Ind rolls of Scotch tape in tin cans. Wooden display boxes full of nibs. Arrow staplers that haven't been made for 50 years. Old Pentel mechanical pencils etc, etc
FJB & FJT
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Campfire Kahuna
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Of course I remember pencil and paper. There are some who claim I remember clay tablets and a stylus, but that's a lie. I only go back to papyrus and a brush.
I do, however, have fond memories of carbon paper, mimeo machines, hole reinforcers, slide rules, and mucilage bottles with red rubber tips. The sign on the wall at the lutheran church I had to do a fire inspection on the other day... said... if you need more than 3 copies, please use the mimeograph....?? I remember that smell of the mimeo running copies of our tests at school some years ago...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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My TI-85 gave up the ghost a year ago. Bought a TI-89 Titanium to replace it, but I'd prefer to have another TI-85 despite it's lower memory and capabilities. I took drafting in high school. CAD was just getting started in industry, but in school, we were still doing it the old fashion way. I competed in drafting at the industrial arts competition in Waco, TX as well as wood shop and metal shop. My father was a designer with Texas Instruments and Rockwell International. I still have his drafting set in a case.
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I was kind of disappointed to find out my son, graduating in May in Aerospace Engineering, was never taught to use a slide rule.  I still use a specialized slide rule for certain work related calculations. All the young guys use apps for the same work. I carry a pencil on daily basis. Doesn't freeze up when I am trying to write figures in the winter.
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Campfire Ranger
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That 48GX model is what we used to do sun shots. Strange how many cloudy days, early and late, there were. It would clear off when the sun got too high of an angle to do them. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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An HP 41CV user here though I started with an HP67 my brother handed down. That one had a card reader so I could write "code", store it on a card and just run it through when needed. IIRC it was a $750 piece in the day. I still have the mechanical pencil I used throughout college. I can't imagine how much lead and eraser that thing has seen. For a short period of my early employ (1985 - 1987) I wrote on a five cc pad. Soon after Shell developed their own "email" system. Though archaic by standards just five years later, it was a blessing.
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I do that all the time. When my kids are doing math homework, I have them do the same. The look at me like I have an extra set of eyes on my forehead.
Shocker...they know how to do quick math now, without a calculator.
Camp is where you make it.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I'm a pencil guy. Just got three nice Pentel .7mm mechanicals for crosswords and figgerin'. Going mechanical is about the only way to get soft, dark, lead without going to a stationary store. Apparently, they think we want to use our pencils to write on diamonds. Hear hear! I have some 40+ year old Koh-I-Noor #2 Writing pencils that are in stark contrast to the junk that passes for pencils today.
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Campfire Kahuna
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I still insist on getting paper bills in the mail because I want a hard copy marked PAID to prove I did. But I pay them electronically. No worries that the Postal Orifice will lose a check and screw my credit rating. I use an Excel file as a checkbook. I set up a page that's easy to use and calculate. I pay the bills though the bank's bill pay then just enter them in the file same as a check or debit purchase. When my 1st wife died 10 years ago, I ordered 2 boxes of check blanks with just my name on them. I'm on the last book of them now. I got remarried a couple years later and we ordered 2 boxes with both of our names. We have about 2 books of those left. We don't write very many checks.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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