Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Savage Collectors savage 1922 pre23 1917? id, 22

ok IM new here need info i got my grate grandfathers old gun, its been around here since 1950 OR BEFORE ,, it is a savage 22 built like a 23a , is has a last pat date nov 20 1917 in the barrel. it has a dual firing pin bolt, and a adjustable trigger from the bottom hole in the trigger guard, it has a 5 shot mag with a date 1908 22 l or lr with knob, it has a big rear bolt knob like a krag that cones in from the back, it has THE sporting Schnabel stock , one screw front sight in front of breach, BUT A MARBLES GLADSTONE MICH USA REAR flip up sight with right side ear PEP hole WAS ON IT , It dont have any numbers On the gun BUT A STRING OP PATEN #S ON TOP, it has a suffix in THE BARREL IN front of the Schnabel part of the stock, STAMPED VG, 25 INCH BARREL, the stock is walnut has a indian holding a gun steel butt, and a blued button in the pistol grip, ANY INFO WOULD BE A HELP HOW LONG MY GRATE GRAND FATHER HAD IT IS NOT KNOWN HE WAS BORN IN 1890

It's a Savage model 1922.

Only made for one year just before they came out with the model 23.

Yep, sounds like a Model 22 to me too. I think they were made in 1934. Just kidding and my apologies for the bad take on the "who's buried in Grant's tomb" joke. Now you'll have to get a Model 19 and 19-33; a 23A, B, C and D; and, a 23AA to have the complete pre-war set. It's infectious. There are those on this forum who are very knowledgeable on these rifles and I am sure they will be along soon to tell you more and better than I can.

If you put the muzzel on the floor and look straight down on the action you will see the serial stamped under the bolt knob, or pull the bolt out, Joe.

I see your serial number stamped on your toe, Joe.

The first rifle in the series was the Model 1919 which was an entry level target rifle. It was followed with the Model 1922 Sporter version. Both are the same action with different wood. As stated above, these two versions were followed with several late variations and in production till WWII.

There were around 16,000 of the Model 1922 produced. The rear sight was held on with one screw in front of the breach. There are two holes in the top rear of the receiver for an optional receiver sight (Savage Model #5) which was standard on the Model 1919. Use of a receiver sight also required a taller front sight.

We are always glad to help people with family firearms.

WELL It say's 20 then spaced with a 3 spaced 8X ALL SPACED

Actually, if you blow it up, it says RIGHT, so I get my shoes on the right feet, Joe.

Looks like 20 3 80

all spaced like that

Hand stamped one number at a time. You would have thought they would have found a better/easier place to put a serial number.

Is the "x" a number? Or is the serial 2038? I have not seen one in the 20,000 range.

The serial on the 1919 above is in the 7000 range. If the numbers continued uninterrupted through the variations, a 1922 in the 20,000 range sounds about right to me. Maybe Rick will jump in on that. I think someone told me they used the split firing pin on the first 25,000 or so. Maybe someone will verify that also, Joe.

OOPS, Rick types faster than me, Joe.

its 20 380
inside the barrel its 25 1/4 long from closed bolt

http://imgur.com/a/ZHV6L I DONT NO HOW TO POST A IMAGE

THANKS THEY BOLTED A DOVE TAIL sight block in the back to run a marbles flip up leaf sight LIKE A WHITE LINE, i had the mag apart took the nut off

I hope yours shoots like mine does. First five shot group at 25 yards with broken rear sight and my bad eyes, Joe.

http://imgur.com/a/BWOiX bolt face image, With all this info would this be a 23 or 1922, it has the bigger chamber face but the early 1919 type bolt it is in the 20,380# range BUT HAS A 25 1/4 inch barrel, its in a sporting stock, has early type 1908 ribbed 5 round mag, has adjustable trigger

Go back to my first post.

thank you all for the help and info you all have give me thanks

I didn't catch the longer brl as stated in your original posting. The longer brl and serial number sounds like a Model 1919 in a sporter stock. I doubt that it came that way from the factory.

Pull the butt plate and see what serial is on the butt plate and stock. A lot of the time the stock and action don't match as there was not much fitting requires but might help identify the time period of the wood.

As for the dual firing pin bolt, it was only used on the 1919 and 1922 with serials before 25,000. (Both models had separate serial numbering and both started over at model change at 25,000)

The opened port area on your rifle would be correct for the serial. The smaller port was only on very early 1919's and maybe some 1922's (I have not seen one).

I have had 4 1922's, all with the numbers on the stocks & butt plates matching the receiver - I have had several of the 1919's of different vintages, and 23-A's & 23-AA', and have never had any of those with matching numbers. Matching numbers seems to just be a 1922 Sporter thing.

My highest 1922 is serial 18,08x, lowest is 11,4xx.

I have never tried to put a 1919 NRA barrel/receiver into a 1922 stock, I would assume a slightly different contour due to the longer barrel if the diameter at the muzzle is close.

1808x is a higher serial than I expected to see. The sales records only show less than 16000 sold. Might have been some jumps in the serial numbers as seen with other models.

I measured the muzzle on a 1922 and a couple of 1919's. Looks like they have the same taper as the 1919 have a smaller diameter muzzle

Rick, I also had/have 16,13x and 16,61x. I would assume serial numbers started at 1000. The one in the 18,000's one was my first, I have a note in the records that all numbers matched so I don't think I misread a '3' as an '8' because I looked at the stock & butt plate too - I will try to remember to double check it sometime.

566X on mine Gene.

the stock and butt is in the 6070# block the gun is in the 20,300 block

the stock has a 6070# block of numberS also the butt# BLOCK 6070 its has a muzzle tip that mic's out at 9/16th THE GUN IS 20, 300#

Hi all, I know this post is a little dated, but I just bought a model 1922 Ser# 2002. Anyone have one lower?

Yes had one reported in the 16xx range but the owner died before I could find out if it had a large or small ejection port. What is yours? Is it scooped out bigger area or a small squared hole where the cartridge ejects from the rifle?

The highest serial reported has been in the 18xxx range. There were more produced than reported in some of the info books. Guessing the serial started at 1000.

Took a look at my Savage model 1922 and yes all the number match. None of my 19s or 23s do. Must be just a 1922 thing. The serial number is 2002. Also anyone here in 24 hourcampfire land know of a #5 rear receiver sight for sale? Either the old one hole type or later version with two any help would be very appreciated.
Chris

That would be my guess as well........ Seeing as how I own one. And in march of 2012 I was posting a "what is it?" thread here also trying to find out what it was. And Mad Dog assisted in the identification of mine as well . So a big THANK YOU to him....... I've still got it and it's a great shooter; and mine's got 7863 for a serial number. Thanks again, Mad Dog.