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For what?

A Federal Judge gave him permission.

Nothing can be done.

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But, as the Examiner states "The president has not provided any evidence of wiretapping. Trump has tweeted out unfounded claims in the past."

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by Andrew C. McCarthy March 3, 2017 4:00 AM


The Obama Justice Department decided to pursue the matter as a national-security investigation under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). In June, it sought the FISA court’s permission to conduct surveillance on a number of Trump associates — and perhaps even Trump himself. It has been reported that Trump was “named” in the application, but it is not publicly known whether he (a) was named as a proposed wiretap target, or (b) was just mentioned in passing in the application. Understand the significance of this: Only the Justice Department litigates before the FISA court; this was not some rogue investigators; this was a high level of Obama’s Justice Department — the same institution that, at that very moment, was whitewashing the Clinton e-mail scandal. And when Justice seeks FISA surveillance authority, it is essentially telling that court that there is probable cause to believe that the targets have acted as agents of a foreign power — that’s the only basis for getting a FISA warrant. In this instance, the FISA court apparently found the Obama Justice Department’s presentation to be so weak that it refused to authorize the surveillance.

That is telling, because the FISA court is generally very accommodating of government surveillance requests. Unwilling to take no for an answer, the Obama Justice Department came back to the FISA court in October — i.e., in the stretch run of the presidential campaign. According to various reports (and mind you, FISA applications are classified, so the leaks are illegal), the October application was much narrower than the earlier one and did not mention Donald Trump. The FISA Court granted this application, and for all we know the investigation is continuing. There are two significant takeaways from this. First, a FISA national-security investigation is not a criminal investigation. It is not a probe to uncover criminal activity; it is a classified effort to discover what a potentially hostile foreign government may be up to on American soil. It does not get an assigned prosecutor because the purpose is not to prove anything publicly in court — indeed, it is a major no-no for the Justice Department to use its FISA authority pretextually, for the real purpose of trying to build a criminal investigation.

One reason why Mike Flynn had to go is just before obama left office they chaneged the rules on who could see the information gathered by the NSA. They made it so a lot more people and agencies could see it. I have wondered every since we found out about the NSA and its survallince of everyone if they could be using it to gather information on political enemies. That is just too tempting for the democrat statists to do. I have also wondered if this information could be used as blackmail. And if they actually have done such a thing I suspect they have at some level. This is very dangerous. It's also why I thought more than anything else the surveillance power of the NSA must be curtailed.

NOW, what's everyone talking about? ;-{>8

Is this why Obama sent all those Russians home just before the election?

They're either going to try to put him in prison or kill him. I think he realizes this now...it takes a bit for normal people to believe how truly evil these sick bastards are. But I think he realizes it and the gloves may be off.

Part of the problem is that for the political class, we've had a surveillance state since at least the 1930s. Rock the boat and dirty little secrets get leaked. Those that arrived in Washington with plans to drain the swamp were soon corrupted, and if they couldn't be corrupted, blackmailed by the surveillance state. And if there was nothing to blackmail them with, something was invented.

Trump is a literal bull in a China shop. He does not care about embarrassment and seems immune to it as that his supporters don't care. They're either going to try to put him in prison or kill him. I think he realizes this now...it takes a bit for normal people to believe how truly evil these sick bastards are. But I think he realizes it and the gloves may be off.

Think he should do it right now.
It's common knowledge that Hussein is running a treasonous organization out of his home as we speak.

Then he needs to be saying what the chituation is going on, on tv, rather than beating around the Bushes and talking about how Zero is a good guy. I do agree with you, he's liable to die.

He isnt offering proof zero tapped him. I hope he has it and reveals it after the dims deny it.