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It looks like a lot of "experts" were wrong on the other thread.
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I'm glad that the USDA admitted what happened. I might be cynical, but it would have been my expectation that they'd never admit the mistake.
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Keep that crap off my land.
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It looks like a lot of "experts" were wrong on the other thread. Still drinking the liberal KoolAid from that newspaper rag? From the article: Curtis said the BLM prohibits M-44s from being placed on its lands and that the agency had no idea that the USDA had put one of the devices on the BLM property off West Buckskin Road.
The USDA would not confirm Wednesday that the bomb had been placed on BLM land. However, the USDA did confirm that the device was placed by one of its employees. Show me where BLM prohibits M44's. I'd love to have a dollar for every device I've placed on BLM. Pure, liberal hogwash. Y'all get a good dose of it now....
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Keep that crap off my land. According to the USDA, M-44s are spring-activated devices that release poisonous cyanide powder when activated...
looks like loud noise would have been more effective. P.
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I'm glad that the USDA admitted what happened. I might be cynical, but it would have been my expectation that they'd never admit the mistake. Actually, any incident of collateral damage has written reports that detail the incident, the location and the cause of it. The report should be available from the regional USDA APHIS office that operates in that area. Funny how they don't cite any USDA APHIS sources. Or provide any verification that is easily obtainable from the USDA. The USDA and BLM are both agencies within the Interior Dept.
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How much does one of these cyanide "bombs" cost?
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How much does one of these cyanide "bombs" cost? Not any sort of "bomb"... But, if I remember the shipping invoice right, they were about $20 or so.
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It looks like a lot of "experts" were wrong on the other thread. No longer than I've been here, I've drawn a few conclusions....there are a lot of "experts" here, and they are often wrong. Not that they will ever admit it, of course.
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I'm glad that the USDA admitted what happened. I might be cynical, but it would have been my expectation that they'd never admit the mistake. It wasnt a mistake. They did it on purpose.
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How much does one of these cyanide "bombs" cost? Not any sort of "bomb"... But, if I remember the shipping invoice right, they were about $20 or so. Pretty expensive way to kill a coyote. I'd bet a $20 bounty would work a lot better.
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How much does one of these cyanide "bombs" cost? Not any sort of "bomb"... But, if I remember the shipping invoice right, they were about $20 or so. Pretty expensive way to kill a coyote. I'd bet a $20 bounty would work a lot better. Actually, it is a pretty cheap way to kill coyotes. The device is reusable. Only the cost of the cyanide capsule replacement. A good double spring trap costs that much. Bounties don't work. They only educate the already smart coyotes more than they already are, and give Master's degrees to the uneducated ones. Usually, the type coyote killed by an M44 do not respond to any type of call, and are probably trap-wise as well. They can become wise to M-44's as well, if enough human scent is in the device area.
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IF no signs were posted - the applicator is in a world of "stink".
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I've never heard of such a thing and I've hunted the west my whole life. While they may work for coyotes, I bet if I was to do the same thing and a kid ended up hurt, I'd be sued into oblivion.
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"They" will be - count on it!
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They were pretty controversial 20-30 years ago. I remember that opponents claimed lots of incidental victims, raptors and such.
I thought they'd banned them, but I guess not. Makes no sense that there weren't signs around the bait.
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The capsules themselves are only a couple dollars. The spring loaded guns may be around $20, and can be reused for years. They are an excellent way of removing trap shy, call shy coyotes that are killing livestock. But they are not a tool to be used just any where. Around urban areas,other methods need to be used. They cannot be set on private land without a signed landowner agreement, and agreements have to be signed with blm and forest service offices if used on federal grazing land as well. Some fed land is off limits to their use as well.
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IF no signs were posted - the applicator is in a world of "stink". I'm betting the set was made according to procedure. I'm sure not falling for anything that newspaper reports. They lost me with the first article when they said the "explosion from the M44 knocked the boy backwards and killed the dog, and covered them both with cyanide powder..." Not only have M44's been a target of bunny huggers for years... and the liberal media, but trapping, and even shooting coyotes have been targets. They would like nothing better than to see and end to ALL hunting.
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