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Tried to hit a fox on the drive up and the fox stayed in the road and easily out ran the truck. F·cking hilarious! +1!!!
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I'd pass on the diesel and look for a Toyota.
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I owned an 80s Datsun mini-pickup. Gas, not diesel. Worst vehicle I ever had. That's a sample of one, I know. But It's all I can offer.
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You all are talking to an old truck nut. I drove this one for years and gave it to one kid when it had about 70K on it. 78 Toyota with the 20R. Age doesn't worry me too much, but it definitely is detrimental in certain ways. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z371/Weather223/252_zps2eb9b9e1.jpg) I miss the mirrors with the yellow chevrons.
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Tried to hit a fox on the drive up and the fox stayed in the road and easily out ran the truck. F·cking hilarious! +1!!! It was very, very cold and the diesel was not flowing all that smoothly... but that is not an exaggeration at all.
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Everybody's favorites are the 84 Toyota's 4x4's with the solid axles. Most of them got 200,000 miles in their first life, then went around a few more times and are still going with their 7th motor. +1 ... Used to be a shop here in town that did nothing but rebuild import engines. Owner said he had guys bring in Toyota trucks so rusted out that you couldn't tell the original color. Rebuild the motor and down the road they go...
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I bought one new in '80 and drove it up the ALCAN in January. Had issues in Watson Lake finding liquid diesel. It was way under-powered. The weight of the engine compromised the front end and it ate tires. That is likely the reason for buying two at a time.
Mine also ate fuel shut-off solenoids.
Tried to hit a fox on the drive up and the fox stayed in the road and easily out ran the truck.
Pretty sure they are asking more than half what I paid new. in 1981 i bought one and drove it up the Alcan from Salem ORE. lost the glow plugs somewhere out in nowheres ville and left it in the shop in Anchorage all summer while fishing out of Nushagak. they could never find the problem . i finally did just before driving back . just a connector under the dash. front end would wash out tires in 2500 miles. mine NEVER got over 20mpg. had a friend that got 48mpg. don't trust them. better something out there for the kid Roy.
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Explain to him how much he is going to hate the smell of diesel over time... Diesel exhaust normally is the smell of POWAH! In a datsun....not so much.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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I have a 92 Toy PU 2wd w/ 22RE & 5 spd. Absolutely no idea how many miles are on it. It was falsely advertised as 70K, and that was what the odometer said in August when I picked it up for a commuter car
But the ring and pinion were so sloppy, the truck would roll a foot forward or back without moving the driveline.
It was difficult to shift into 2'nd or 3'rd without grinding gears, the clutch started slipping this winter driving through heavy snow, and it lost a rod bearing three weeks ago.
Based on over three decades of nearly continuous Toyota ownership, I would have to guess the old girl has over 300K under her belt.
I bought a parts truck with no engine for $400, and transplanted the rear axle and tranny into my commuter PU.
I took it into a reliable shop and they installed a new LUK clutch and Jasper rebuilt long block, for $4200.
It pulls any hill I point it at, at 80 plus in 5'th gear.
With a set of new Toyo Open Country 215-75-15 tires on it, it drives like a brand new pickup. But I got no payment on it, and I do not have to pay for comp/collision.
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It was made to run around town,not for much off road work.
The key for me is you said he wanted something to drive not work on.
Well parts can still be found and he will have to do some work to it,it's the nature of old stuff.
As to tires the ones made today should get more miles before they scrub out.
The engines might not have 100+ horsepower but if treated right they do yeoman's work.
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Don't. Too old, obscure engine. May be something like a broken heater core which is unavailable maybe. The advce on 20 and 22R is spot on. It is a billet proof engine, there are lots of parts and mechanics.
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Did Datsun and Isuzu share the same diesel?
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Back in those days Toy marketed a diesel pickup also.
But I have no idea who manufactured any of those engines.
ETA: It appears that Toy built their own series of 4 cyl diesels.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Well, part of growing up is making your own decisions, so he did his Google research and he and his brother went to look at it tonight. I had planned to go along but at the last minute wasn't able to go due to work. They paid $2700 for it and drove it home.
When they got home I went for a 20 mile drive to check basic function such as clutch, braking, lights, etc. Guys, I gotta tell ya after reading all that was written here about it being gutless I was really surprised. It did fantastic and it seems like the engine is a great match to this little truck. It's a very torquey little motor on the hills coming up the road we live on. The fuel needle barely moved in 20 miles. It has a heater (of course) and it works fine, but has no air conditioning.
I'll be anxious to see how this pans out. It seems like a very solid little truck. If it gets anywhere near 40 mpg I'd say it'll be great for the kid.
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Nice ! I hope it's a runner for the boy.
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Back in those days Toy marketed a diesel pickup also.
But I have no idea who manufactured any of those engines.
ETA: It appears that Toy built their own series of 4 cyl diesels. I had a buddy with one of the Toyota's and he injected it with propane. IIRC he got 33 mpg with his 4x4.
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wouldn't waste the money on it.
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wouldn't waste the money on it. It ain't a Cummins that's for sure. 
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i just wouldn't own a mini truck, period, but thats me.
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