Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Looks like we've been had again. Gorsuch is a "settled law" lieberal.

That's what it all boils down to.

SC Justices ought to follow the constitution.

Anyone that wants favors from the Supreme Court doesn't have much regard for the constitution.

Wanting past activist decisions overturned is called strict constructionism/originalism.

That's what most people don't get when Gorsuch answered questions about some things the way he did...

Yes. It's settled law. Until it isn't, and the subject comes before the SC again. Roe v Wade is settled.

But, ______ v _______ in the future isn't.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

That's what I was hoping he was doing, but if he's not willing to come out and defend actual originalism/strict constructionism, it's a big risk putting him in there. If he's approved, I hope you are correct.

I hope I'm correct also.

Sometimes you just don't know what a fish has been eating until you clean it.

I personally don't think he's another Roberts.

Lots of earlier SC rulings were overturned by new cases to the SC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_overruled_United_States_Supreme_Court_decisions

Gotcha. I agree with your sentiments, but I don't think we define "conservative" quite the same way...no substance for an argument here. It's a good illustration of the problem with labels, though.

I think/thought Gorsuch was a good man, won't matter if the D's block him one way or another out of principle alone.

It would be stupid not to use the so-called nuclear option as that it is just a matter of time until it is used. The Dems won't hesitate to use ignore regardless of what is done now. It is war. Use all your weapons.

All that said we may as well end the republic. You can't have a government when there is open warfare. The experiment is over.

Don't fug around with the dems. Just go nuclear.

Gorsuch won't be the only SC nominee.

Dems will fight every one with all they have.

I am afraid you're probably right, JoeBob. I don't see how there can ever be peace. These bastards are intent upon imposing their will on the rest of us, and I think most of us would rather eat broken beer bottles than accept that.

To quote Dan Ackroyd: : "Jane, you ignorant slut!"

Don't be foolish. Gorsuch has to go through the tap-dance and the interrogation that is confirmation

Do you want him to be defiant about everything the Left holds dear, and then get Borked, or would you rather him give them as little ammo as possible to shoot him down?

This guy has been coached by those who know the game. When asked if ANY of that chit is "settled law", the answer is "YES". It is settled, for now.

I will tell all Right to Lifers (which I am) that you will see unicorns and leprechauns ride rainbows before Roe v Wade gets reversed. I mean, do you really believe after nearly 50 years, a half Century, the Court will over turn it and it would stand? Conservatives would be swept out of office and never see power for 100 years afterwards, if ever. The Left would remake the Court and subsequently overturn it again.

We lost that one in '72, and we live with it. That is a battle that can only be won from pews and the pulpit, one family at a time. Not by law.

Give Gorsuch credit for being smart. Do you want him to defy the Dems and lose or be smart and get confirmed. Face it, if Grouch goes down, the next nominee will be more liberal.

The actual Gorsuch as a SC judge will not be known unless/until he is doing that work. He gives the appearance of one who will ethically try to ignore and get past the current political maneuvering so he can do what he loves - be a constructionist judge. IMHO, he would be open to turning past rulings that were way too loose. Hoping for the best - who would be better these days?
TRH - thanks for the good contributions here.

From here on out there is no bi-partisanship. There is no cooperation. There isn't even an agreement on what is proper procedure. There will only be the party in power asserting its will. And we are about to take the next step. If and it is a big if, the Dems ever get control of the House again, they will impeach Trump. They don't need a good reason, it will be a purely partisan exercise. Once that happens, it will be used against any president when his party doesn't control Congress, but particularly by the Dems.

It is over. Realize it and live accordingly.

You may be right.

Only if you are ok with a lieberal court. Most are not.

The people don't care how a law gets done, just so it does the right thing. Nobody will ever remember, or care, that a nuclear option was used.

RINOs in congress are still bein pussies about this.

Remains to be seen if President Trump can change that attitude.

Ahhhh the #NeverTrump faction is at it again. Still butthurt.

I'd offer to start a collection to get them a 55gal drum of personal lubricant but no one offered to chip in for Jeff_O so I'm guessing we'll see the same results. Sorry #NeverTrump!

Every Supreme Court Justice has to look to precedence. That doesn't mean it can't be overturned or moderated.

If remember correctly it was declared a tax. I wonder how that will play out if everybody is not required to buy insurance. Can't tax just some of the people. Hasbeen