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Another thumbs-up for Seek Outside. Real happy with the Unaweep 4800.

I don't have extensive experience with a lot of packs. I did a lot of time with ALICE and still use it some. Tried an ILBE and though it carried well, but seemed excessively heavy at over 8 lbs empty.


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My experience with the old Dana's doesn't exactly jive with everyone elses. Their internals and externals are very well built, but I found the belts uncomfortable under heavy load testing. Load transfer is a bit complicated where simple is preferred.

Still, build quality was very good. Overall I don't think the Bozeman built Dana's are quite worthy of the cult status they have achieved. Technology generally moves forward, not backward, and pack design has improved in the last 20 years.

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Do yourself a favor, spend a bit more and get a Kifaru. I wish Id skipped all the other packs and gone straight to Kifaru.

The only pack I kept after I got the Kifaru is a Barneys pack that I used for several years and just cant bring myself to get rid of.

The Kifaru packs down better which is nice but the barneys sure does carry heavy loads well.

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One major problem is this kind of guarantee.

"Made in the U.S.A with a 30 day money back guarantee if returned as new."

So, you are supposed to sit there and look at it leaning against the wall instead of actually using it in order for there to be a guarantee!

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If you're referring to Kifaru, you've obviously never talked to them. I have a pack on the way and will try it out and decide within the 30 days. Their whole deal is don't abuse it for 30 days, then send it back like it was a new pack. They simply want to re-sell it for new - however you need to keep it that way while trying it out is up to you. I'm not expecting a problem with putting 50-60 'clean' lbs in it and taking it for a couple 1-3 mile hikes around the house. I'd bet I don't get it dirty, sweaty, or anything else........


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