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I don't think it will matter why he did it, but what I've read he suddenly swerved into the path of the bus. He should do time. Maybe lots.

A witness at the crash scene reported that the guy said he was texting.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...-was-texting-11041354.php?ipid=artrecirc

Damn

That's a dangerous stretch of road IMO. People tend not to slow down for that big long curve in front of the park.




Dave

A few people called in reports of the truck driving erratically before the wreck.

Before law enforcement could get there, the wreck happened.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/n...re-church-bus-accident-that-left-13-dead

One big question now is the danger of vehicles like the church mini-bus.

The dodge dually incurred the same impact, but the lone occupant was not in critical condition after the wreck.... In contrast to 13 of the 14 occupants of the church bus being killed. 12 instantly.

Kinda bears looking into.

I'd guess that none of the bus passengers were wearing seat belts. The rear half doesn't look all that bad so they were likely tossed.

plus they we're in their 60s-80s

Yes, they were older, but take a look at the back of the bus. There's very little damage. I'm betting that the bodies were all in a pile right behind the driver. Many of these buses don't have seat belts and usually they aren't used if they do. People just have the attitude that if I'm in a bus I'm safe. It's true, though, that younger people can survive flying impacts better than seniors.

Guy was all over the road...video captured from driver behind the truck (and who called into report the erratic driving).

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...h-bus-crash-11042124.php?impid=brkrecirc

Maybe in a text fight with his girlfriend, the most likely thing to get a 20yo all wound up and distracted.

Truck driver was texting. Of course some would cut him some slack, he's just a kid. Right Birdy...

A 20-something was texting when he plowed into our (paid for) Accord that was parked on the curb.

I met him halfway to my front door and said "on your phone huh?" It caught him off guard before he could come up with some BS.

Happens every day but it's usually a one-on-one.

This ended up a zero-14 so we can count on some legislation, I'm sure.

The preacher is impressive. For a 12 year old.

Do you ever read a frigging article posted?

"She said it appeared that most, if not all, of the bus passengers were belted in their seats at the time of the crash. The bus had been converted from a 2004 Ford Econoline van, which she called quite common, and was equipped with seat belts."

I'd charge him with whatever fits, starting with thirteen counts of negligent homicide or however it is described in this state.

Then I'd leave it to a judge and jury to decide, and they can take into account any priors or lack thereof.

Near as I can tell a tragedy all around: Thirteen dead and a young man's life ruined beyond comprehension.

His driving? 80-85 in light traffic ain't unusual in Texas, pretty sure I've hit triple digits more'n a few times on motorcycles somewhere on that very road, sure as heck have on the Vanderpool Mountain Road right by there. I didn't own a car until I was past 40, my first ten years here I rode that area at least half a dozen times a year.

The weaving? if he weren't drunk or under the influence that's a guy seriously preoccupied. That preoccupation killed 13 people, and might as well have killed him too.

Birdwatcher

He deserves everything he has coming to him and then some...

This ^^^^^ No slack needed. Until people start receiving serious consequences for texting and driving, it will just get worse. When I was working starting up a project in Ontario Canada 7 or 8 years ago, they had a $500 fine for first offense talking on a cell phone or texting while driving. I think second offense was $1,000. I would be supportive of the same here in the U.S. ...

I'd be supportive of more than that. The past few years have been my bicycle period; most days 10-20 miles on a bicycle, along the side of the road. Prob'ly stay that way for a while and I ain't anxious to get run over.

Yeah, very sad.

A later report said that they didn't know if the bus even had seat belts, let alone whether they were using them.