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What many many folks miss, generally speaking, you get treated the way you treat others.
She needed to be detained possibly arrested for sure. However, your statement above cuts both ways. Given the wide range of and impacts a LEO can have, not every nail needs to be hammered....I'm sure she could have been detained easily minus the face plant..... LEO's are nothing more than fellow citizens put in charge of enforcing the law. Citizens nonetheless My take from reading some of the reports out there, she is the one that started the bad treatment... not the LEO. Obviously its very possible to have arrested her another way. OTOH she is the one that started it, so..... Personally the way I am, but deferring to not knowing nearly all the issues involved here, would have tried a nice easy way. In the end though being respectful to LEO over my 52 years has shown me nothing but respect in return. As always YMMV.
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that was not necessary, showed this to a couple of cop friends, their response was unanimously "what a douche bag" and "thats gonna cost that department some money"
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Wasn't there. Was that a take down or punishment? Looked like at least 100 lbs of serious threat there. IIRC I read she is 5'4, 115# On one of the national news shows this morning they stated that the woman was 5'9" and weighed 140lbs. It's obvious early in the video that whatever her true height is she is about as tall as the cop that threw her down. Even at 5'4" without her high heel shoes on the cop must not be any taller than 5'6". Was what the cop did to her overkill for for the situation? Maybe so, maybe not, I don't know. I would imagine though that in the same circumstances but a male instead of a female the cop's take down method would have been the same, per training. Well, we've moved from supposing to imagining. Is that a prelude to "guessing" or did we skip that part. I,m gonna " suppose, imagine and guess" that you cops and cop ass kissers understand that by defending this hero's actions, YOU ARE STATING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE BEHAVED EXACTLY AS HE DID IN A SIMILAR INCIDENT. Btw...don't y'all agree that LVMikey is doing a good job of filling DINK's shoes as our resident " Bonehead With a Badge?"
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Jeff, no offense intended but you are not in a situation to be exposed to much in the way of bad law enforcement. In your employment and your avocation, you are on the "inside" of your local L E.
And you never had teenaged kids who can introduce you to he "other side".
And... at 52 YO, you still have ample time for the ONE bad experience which will tarnish the aura you have around cops.
It's good to value experience, just don't restrict your education by only learning from YOUR experience.
Playing Mr Nice Guy puts the odds in your favor as far as interacting with cops....but it damn sure ain't a guarantee.
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. . .So you seriously believe that the only way those young strapping lads could physically restrain her little twinkie azz was to body slam her face first into the cobblestone pavement? What I find far more disturbing than the very small number of LEOs that pull this BS, is the much larger percent that defend it. No defense necessary, more snowflakes and their syncophants need to learn better manners. mike r That's hilarious. So when, exactly, did it become acceptable for a big virulent man to body slam an unarmed little twinkie girl just because she was mouthy? [/quote] This dude has issues. Condoning excessive force. Calling other members that he doesn't even know names and inferring that another has medals for going to Alcoholics Anonymous classes. Pretty weak.
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If no one did anything wrong, NOTHING would have happened... We miss that WAY to often IMHO.
Ha! Lets see how well that argument works when LEGALLY filming cops doing their job in public..
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Not taking anyone's "side" in this, but that woman had a malfunctioning warning light...
The warning light that goes off in most people's brain when disobeying a cop that is about to throw your ass to the ground and haul what's left of it to jail.
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that looked pretty excessive to this armchair quarterback.
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Jeff, speeders did something wrong. Bodyslam them? YOu are missing the point. No body slam to even discuss if you aren't speeding. Me, I have respect for LEO. If I do get stopped I"m not mouthing off, or punching, shouldering, etc... an LEO for sure. And if I do, well I appreciate them being nice, but I'd expect them to do what they need to, and its all going to be on me for having done it in the first place... whatever it was. What many many folks miss, generally speaking, you get treated the way you treat others. YMMV. Sorry, Jeff, but i disagree. I never saw where she bodyslammed him. I will agree he should have treated her like she treated him, and then arrested her. No one can say with a straight face he did his job in a professional manner. He got pissed and took it out on her. Those who get pissed and take it personal arent fit to be lawmen.
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Not taking anyone's "side" in this, but that woman had a malfunctioning warning light...
The warning light that goes off in most people's brain when disobeying a cop that is about to throw your ass to the ground and haul what's left of it to jail. Nothing wrong with her warning light, Barry. She just wasn't aware of his "training".
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Excessive take-down by the cop.
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She was out of line but he was too. Only reason that much force would have been necessary is if she pulled a knife.He got tired of her crap and slammed her.I hope he isn't married.
For all the cops that agree with him,that's exactly the reason the general public hates you.
For all you cops who are ashamed of his actions,I appreciate you and be safe. I'm sorry actions like his make you less safe.
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She was out of line but he was too. Only reason that much force would have been necessary is if she pulled a knife.He got tired of her crap and slammed her.I hope he isn't married.
For all the cops that agree with him,that's exactly the reason the general public hates you.
For all you cops who are ashamed of his actions,I appreciate you and be safe. I'm sorry actions like his make you less safe. In all the years this 'fire has been burning, we have never discussed an instance of questionable police behavior, and many were most egregious in nature,but that a large number of forum cops defended their actions. You can figure that what they condone in others, they practice themselves.
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She was out of line but he was too. Only reason that much force would have been necessary is if she pulled a knife.He got tired of her crap and slammed her.I hope he isn't married.
For all the cops that agree with him,that's exactly the reason the general public hates you.
For all you cops who are ashamed of his actions,I appreciate you and be safe. I'm sorry actions like his make you less safe. In all the years this 'fire has been burning, we have never discussed an instance of questionable police behavior, and many were most egregious in nature,but that a large number of forum cops defended their actions. You can figure that what they condone in others, they practice themselves. The choirmaster who advocates killing cops should reiterate how many times he has been arrested, divorced and otherwise demonstrated responsible moral and social values. Cop bashing is a favorite sport of internet cowards, BLM and NAMBLA members. Carry on tough guys. mike r
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It looks like he was holding her arm by the wrist for awhile and she couldn't get away even if she wanted???
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She was out of line but he was too. Only reason that much force would have been necessary is if she pulled a knife.He got tired of her crap and slammed her.I hope he isn't married.
For all the cops that agree with him,that's exactly the reason the general public hates you.
For all you cops who are ashamed of his actions,I appreciate you and be safe. I'm sorry actions like his make you less safe. In all the years this 'fire has been burning, we have never discussed an instance of questionable police behavior, and many were most egregious in nature,but that a large number of forum cops defended their actions. You can figure that what they condone in others, they practice themselves. The choirmaster who advocates killing cops should reiterate how many times he has been arrested, divorced and otherwise demonstrated responsible moral and social values. Cop bashing is a favorite sport of internet cowards, BLM and NAMBLA members. Carry on tough guys. mike r Nah, you saw what the tough guy did to the drunk twit.
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Makes you wonder about the cops that condone this behaviour. Wonder how many cops would do that to their very own daughter? Even cops on campfire. They will of course have a retort like "my daughter would never act that way" blah blah blah.
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Btw...don't y'all agree that LVMikey is doing a good job of filling DINK's shoes as our resident " Bonehead With a Badge?"
I find it amusing that a guy that spent most of his life living in a bottle, sitting in a bar and crapping his pants feels entitled enough to call anyone names. All of a sudden he's sober and somebody. Can you tell more about putting people in cruisers?..... Dink
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I dont think any condone it. I think many excuse it. I think it means some have dealt with crap so long life has become an "its us against them" philosophy which has led to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation, which leads to many rogues as being friends. Friends which they defend, no matter the circumstances, and unfortunately, to the end.
Thank God for those still not so embittered.
Problem is, both kinds, lawmen and rogues, wear the same color.
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