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Originally Posted by 1minute
With my 16 ft spey rods I'm picking up about 68 ft of line and a 20 ft of leader when the cast starts. I shoot about another 30 to 40 ft of line on the cast, but I should really pull it all in and measure it some day. There are not many unreachable rocks in the river I fish. If I'm really trying to max things, I may have 3 or 4 loops of shooting line resting in the water, and another 2 or 3 loops in my mouth.

Maxing distance though is often less than rewarding. With steelhead, takes are often undetected until the weight is there. I've hooked some way out there, but they often break off because I can't get all of that cross current line out of the water. That current alone is enough to break tippets even when a fish is simply holding.


Skagit or long belly?


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Sitka:

Skagits are way too short. I've used them, and one can get some serious distance out of them. One spends half his time on the water stripping in line for the next cast though, and to me that's not fishing time. With long bellies or double tapers I just pick it up and roll it back out there. Wish I had discovered Spey rods about 15 years sooner. Have a 12 1/2, a 14, and two 16 footers. For sure the most efficient method to fly fish, and at my age there might not be much time left. Have a good one,


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How far you can cast a line in the yard is somewhat relevant to fishing. It is great practice for loop size control. Yard casting is rarely done into the wind, or with a big fuzzy fly, without tailing loops, with 3/0 split shot, standing in 3 feet of water etc... Casts over 50 feet are rarely neccesary for most fishing situations. You likely will need to be able to cast 80' in perfect yard conditions in order to reliably cast 50' in wind, surf, cold, with heavy or bulky flies, or deep wading. I used to take pride in how far I could throw an 8wt. Could cast over 100'. I was recently embarrassed at how poorly I threw a big mullet fly into the wind with a 10 wt. I blew several good shots at roosterfish because I was out of practice and folded under pressure.

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I can hit 70-80 feet with my Scott Radian 9' 6 weight and Rio Intouch Gold. Gold is a .4 over weight fly line. I'm going to get Rio Outbound Short for throwing big streamers more easily than with the Gold and I don't doubt I'll be able to cast 90-100 feet with that line. It's a 2 over weight line with a shooting head and a bunch of running line, it's made for distance. Distance is about the individual and casting stroke though. The stiffest fastest action broom stick rod with a shooting head won't make a difference if the operator doesn't know how to use it.

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