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#12081443 - 06/09/17 Rebarrel .308?  
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I have two Remingtons, a Model 700 Varmint Special and an elderly 40X target gun, both with the throats shot out. Thinking of rebarreling at least one of them, and am not really interested in another .308. Despite my ton of gun books and reloading manuals, I cant find the list of cartridges that have the same base dimensions as the .308.
In other words, what can I rebarrel to without having to screw with the bolt face, extractor, etc. Thanks.


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#12081470 - 06/09/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: jnyork]  
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The list is LONG


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#12081499 - 06/09/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: jnyork]  
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These are just the sub 30 cals you can run with that are factory loaded and will feed in that action..

22 BR
22-250
6mm br
6mm creed
6.5 x 47
243 Win
6MM REM
250 SAVAGE
260 REM
6.5 CREED
7MM-08

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#12081783 - 06/09/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: jnyork]  
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It looks like the .220 Swift would fit right in also.


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#12081889 - 06/09/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: Ringman]  
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Originally Posted by Ringman
It looks like the .220 Swift would fit right in also.


Yeah. it will fit. But dur to the rimmed cartridhe dedign and case taper,it probably won' t feed well in an unaltered .308 action.

Which , is why I left it off the list. smile

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#12081951 - 06/09/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: jnyork]  
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Then you can go up to .338 fed and .358 win, or go sideways with 300 savage (just for grins).

#12081988 - 06/09/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: jnyork]  
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#12082167 - 06/10/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: LouisB]  
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Also, you could change to a REMAGE system( use a a barrel nut) and get into making barrel changes yourself.

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#12082253 - 06/10/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: jnyork]  
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I can't understand why everyone seems to think the addition of a barrel nut is necessary to facilitate barrel swapping. The truth is, the barrel nut complicates things. Without the nut, headspace is fixed and you don't need to rely on a gauge. The advantage of the nut is only in play when chambering since there is no need to chamber to a precise depth. GD

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Originally Posted by greydog
I can't understand why everyone seems to think the addition of a barrel nut is necessary to facilitate barrel swapping. The truth is, the barrel nut complicates things. Without the nut, headspace is fixed and you don't need to rely on a gauge. The advantage of the nut is only in play when chambering since there is no need to chamber to a precise depth. GD


I believe you've answered your own question. Without the expense and time involved in engaging the services of a craftsman such as yourself to fit/chamber a barrel to a particular action, a fellow handy with tools can more easily afford a half dozen barrels for his fun rifle.

#12085939 - 06/12/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: jnyork]  
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Is the 40x a single shot? That would make things even more entertaining.

#12089408 - 06/13/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: LouisB]  
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What are you going to do with it will control a lot of the "best" chambering idea?


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#12089447 - 06/14/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: greydog]  
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Originally Posted by greydog
I can't understand why everyone seems to think the addition of a barrel nut is necessary to facilitate barrel swapping. The truth is, the barrel nut complicates things. Without the nut, headspace is fixed and you don't need to rely on a gauge. The advantage of the nut is only in play when chambering since there is no need to chamber to a precise depth. GD


Helloooo????

You don't need to rely on a gauge with set (nut-less) barrels??? And it "complicates things". Or when swapping nut-barrels? What do you think that nut does, other than "chamber" to the gauge or cartridge? Really?????

Damn, I sure did waste a lot of money on all those Go/No/Go gauges for fixed barrels then... same ones used for the barrel nut types, by the way. Which could be set by using a cartridge. ( I wouldn't, but it could). And the nut-jobs are SO much easier than machining to fit.... if my experience of many fixed fittings vs one nut is any indication! By the way- I hate Savages....but that fitting system is great! A couple minutes vs an hour or more on the lathe.... It even works!

Furthermore, swapping "fixed" barrels (once fitted) requires more tools (, barrel clamps/ vises /wrenches) than does that Savage system (wrench). Sure, once you set a "fixed" barrel, you can index mark it to the receiver and get it close (within tolerance) without a gauge, I suppose. I wouldn't.

Yer talking out yer ass., not to make too big a point of it.... smile


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#12091509 - 06/14/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: jnyork]  
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I switch barrels all the time on rifles with and without nuts. On conventionally fitted barrels, they get screwed on tight and taken out and shot. I have never seen any evidence of changing headspace. I used to change barrels between matches ( LV to HV) with no issues. By the way, when fitting a barrel with a nut, I still have to set it up in the lathe to thread and chamber it. I've not seen that it is any quicker either way. Once a barrel is fitted conventionally, it can be screwed off and on and headspace will be just fine. Now, if one really cranks on a barrel with a minimal shoulder, you might be able to get the headspace too tight. Given an adequate shoulder, wear on the threads will eventually get the barrel turning past register but the shoulder location will likely be unchanged and headspace will also not change. I have one pre-64 Winchester action which gets barrels switched at least once a month and no gauge is required. A "go" gauge was used to establish headspace on each of the half dozen barrels which are fitted to this action and there has been and is no need to use the gauge again. The barrels are just tightened up until the extractor cut is aligned and there you have it. By the way, one barrel which is used on this action is a re-threaded, re-chambered Savage barrel which retains the nut. On this one, the barrel is, again, screwed in until the extractor cut is aligned and the nut is set. Because the extractor cut is, necessarily, a bit wider than the extractor, headspace can vary by a thou or two so I do employ the go gauge with it but don't have to with the others.
I have, on occasion, used a nut where the barrel shank was small enough that I didn't think it provided enough shoulder for positive fitting. Again, these were fitted and chambered conventionally (using a gauge, of course) but, subsequent to this, the barrel was just screwed in hand tight and locked with the nut. Headspace was established by the shoulder. I don't know how many barrels of both types you have fitted and chambered and swapped back and forth but I suspect you might need some more experience before being too critical. GD

#12099170 - 06/19/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: jnyork]  
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#12099209 - 06/19/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: jk16]  
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Originally Posted by jk16
These are just the sub 30 cals you can run with that are factory loaded and will feed in that action..

22 BR
22-250
6mm br
6mm creed
6.5 x 47
243 Win
6MM REM
250 SAVAGE
260 REM
6.5 CREED
7MM-08


Yup, and ackley variants thereof, and anything based on the .284 winchester.

To the op, what use will the rifle see?

I'd lean towards a 6mm with a fast enough twist to stabalize vld 105's. Great long range bullet, mild on the shoulder.


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#12099311 - 06/19/17 Re: Rebarrel .308? [Re: 458 Lott]  
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Originally Posted by 458 Lott
Originally Posted by jk16
These are just the sub 30 cals you can run with that are factory loaded and will feed in that action..

22 BR
22-250
6mm br
6mm creed
6.5 x 47
243 Win
6MM REM
250 SAVAGE
260 REM
6.5 CREED
7MM-08


Yup, and ackley variants thereof, and anything based on the .284 winchester.

To the op, what use will the rifle see?

I'd lean towards a 6mm with a fast enough twist to stabalize vld 105's. Great long range bullet, mild on the shoulder.

8 twist for sure; 6mm Creed, or .243 would work. I like the 6mm Rem, but with those long bullets in a short mag, think I'd prefer the 6-CM or 243. Don't forget about Scenar 105's.

8 twist .22-250 is a great combo, I like mine. The AI version may mo better yet...

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Originally Posted by jk16
These are just the sub 30 cals you can run with that are factory loaded and will feed in that action..

22 BR
22-250
6mm br
6mm creed
6.5 x 47
243 Win
6MM REM
250 SAVAGE
260 REM
6.5 CREED
7MM-08


6.5 Creed, and enjoy life.

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With a little work, one can turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.

Here's a vintage M-700 ADL with #2 Shilen SS match 6.5 Creedmoor, the old stock cut down to what you see. Glassed, free floated, a new Timney 510 trigger added.

I removed the cheekpiece, slimmed the grip to look sorta like a Prince of Wales shotgun, slimmed the forearm, hollowed out the butt; the final product weighing 26 oz. That's about the weight of a McM Hunter's Edge. The stock had a lot of sap wood, which is lighter than good walnut. I rattle can painted it. I like those vintage aluminum butt plates.

It'll put 123 gr. Scenars in one ragged hole at a hundred.

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