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took 10 seconds to travel the 2.14 miles towards the fighter
How far do you have to lead him?


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their math is off 4.28 seconds at nominal 2641 fps of the 50.reporters. they are so much smarter then us.
awesome shot. i guess i better start watching my six to the north, them Canadians are getting feisty!


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Gives a new meaning to the term "windage and elevation".


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Canadians have the 1.2.3 & 5 furthest shot by now?


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Originally Posted by deerstalker
their math is off 4.28 seconds at nominal 2641 fps of the 50.reporters. they are so much smarter then us.
awesome shot. i guess i better start watching my six to the north, them Canadians are getting feisty!



I dont even know where to start to calc this right now, but I was pretty sure the calcs on the 1800 yard shots I took once with my 50 were 4-5 seconds time of flight and seems like the impact from the steel kind of confirmed it was in that same TOF area around 5 seconds.

I'd think double that would be more than 10 seconds, but it doesn't much matter at this point. LOL


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their math is off 4.28 seconds at nominal 2641 fps of the 50.reporters. they are so much smarter then us.
awesome shot. i guess i better start watching my six to the north, them Canadians are getting feisty!



I dont even know where to start to calc this right now, but I was pretty sure the calcs on the 1800 yard shots I took once with my 50 were 4-5 seconds time of flight and seems like the impact from the steel kind of confirmed it was in that same TOF area around 5 seconds.

I'd think double that would be more than 10 seconds, but it doesn't much matter at this point. LOL


Quick and dirty calculation.

http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=.50+BMG+100yd&presets=&df=G1&bc=1.050&bw=750&vi=2820&zr=0&sh=0&sa=0&ws=0&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=3770&ss=100&chartColumns=Range%7Eyd%3BElevation%7Ein%3BElevation%7EMOA%7EFBFFF5%3BElevation%7EMIL%3BWindage%7Ein%3BWindage%7EMOA%7EFBFFF5%3BWindage%7EMIL%3BTime%7Es%3BEnergy%7Eft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D%7Eft%2Fs&lbl=50+BMG+750gr+Hornady+A-Max&submitst=+Create+Chart+


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Anyone have any idea what the drop would be, with a hypothetical 1000 yard zero? A ball park figure.

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Originally Posted by deerstalker
their math is off 4.28 seconds at nominal 2641 fps of the 50.reporters. they are so much smarter then us.
awesome shot. i guess i better start watching my six to the north, them Canadians are getting feisty!



I don't know the fps of the gun he was using, but if you have that right, then you are correct. At 11,319 ft which is a little over 2 miles, it would be 4.28 seconds of flight time.

Regardless, unbelievable shot from a hand held rifle.


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Anyone have any idea what the drop would be, with a hypothetical 1000 yard zero? A ball park figure.


According to the calculator I just cited it's over 600'.


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Originally Posted by guyandarifle
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their math is off 4.28 seconds at nominal 2641 fps of the 50.reporters. they are so much smarter then us.
awesome shot. i guess i better start watching my six to the north, them Canadians are getting feisty!



I dont even know where to start to calc this right now, but I was pretty sure the calcs on the 1800 yard shots I took once with my 50 were 4-5 seconds time of flight and seems like the impact from the steel kind of confirmed it was in that same TOF area around 5 seconds.

I'd think double that would be more than 10 seconds, but it doesn't much matter at this point. LOL


Quick and dirty calculation.

http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=.50+BMG+100yd&presets=&df=G1&bc=1.050&bw=750&vi=2820&zr=0&sh=0&sa=0&ws=0&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=3770&ss=100&chartColumns=Range%7Eyd%3BElevation%7Ein%3BElevation%7EMOA%7EFBFFF5%3BElevation%7EMIL%3BWindage%7Ein%3BWindage%7EMOA%7EFBFFF5%3BWindage%7EMIL%3BTime%7Es%3BEnergy%7Eft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D%7Eft%2Fs&lbl=50+BMG+750gr+Hornady+A-Max&submitst=+Create+Chart+






Can't read that, but then someone else says yes 4.28... I sure could swear that 1800 was around 5 seconds, but I've not shot my 50 at longer distances in a long time.... like I said, regardless, its a heck of a shot and heck of a lucky shot to boot. Would not want to be within a few miles of that dude, with him after me. Good shooter that knows whats going on, AND has a golden BB from time to time...


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What I read it was over 3700 yards, 750 amax at 2800 fps rough run is around 8 seconds TOF. Roughly

And years ago we didn't have amax, were running AP bullets as they were more accurate at the time than ball, so that could make up for the TOF issue too.


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took 10 seconds to travel the 2.14 miles towards the fighter
How far do you have to lead him?
I think you have to book an appointment with him a week in advance:)

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Rifle was a McMillan TAC-50 with suppressor. The 'can' looked all of two feet long.
How much would that affect velocity?


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Originally Posted by deerstalker
their math is off 4.28 seconds at nominal 2641 fps of the 50.reporters. they are so much smarter then us.
awesome shot. i guess i better start watching my six to the north, them Canadians are getting feisty!



Bullets slow down as they fly. You are calculating as if it maintains 2641 from the muzzle to the target.

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their math is off 4.28 seconds at nominal 2641 fps of the 50.reporters. they are so much smarter then us.
awesome shot. i guess i better start watching my six to the north, them Canadians are getting feisty!
I guess it depends on the load. US M33 ball is 660gr @ 2,900fps. Hornady makes a 750 boat tail at 2,800 fps. But I cant even find a ballistic calculator that goes to 2 mi (3,520 yards).

If someone has a calculator, here's the specifics on the Hornady A-Max load:
750gr boat tail
Velocity: 2,800fps
BC: 1.050 (holy-crap!!!)

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For velocity and time of flight purposes couldn't you use the calculator to its max range, note the remaining velocity, then use that as an input for another run? Add up the time of flights for the different runs.

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It's a great shot, but a lot of luck involved at that range. Definitely a S.W.A.G. shot on the holdover and especially the windage.

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Originally Posted by Northman
Canadians have the 1.2.3 & 5 furthest shot by now?



They're too scared to get any closer....LOL

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
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their math is off 4.28 seconds at nominal 2641 fps of the 50.reporters. they are so much smarter then us.
awesome shot. i guess i better start watching my six to the north, them Canadians are getting feisty!
I guess it depends on the load. US M33 ball is 660gr @ 2,900fps. Hornady makes a 750 boat tail at 2,800 fps. But I cant even find a ballistic calculator that goes to 2 mi (3,520 yards).

If someone has a calculator, here's the specifics on the Hornady A-Max load:
750gr boat tail
Velocity: 2,800fps
BC: 1.050 (holy-crap!!!)

JBM goes to 4000......


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Originally Posted by Heeler
Rifle was a McMillan TAC-50 with suppressor. The 'can' looked all of two feet long.
How much would that affect velocity?

most suppressors ad velocity by a tiny bit IIRC.


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A very good, amazing and skilled shot. Certainly the stars lined up for the shooter and his spotter as well. Mind boggling the number of variables. Last year, shooting a paltry 1000 yds I was humiliated chasing the X-ring. Strange wind came up and it was anybodies guess. Far better shooters than I were kicking the dirt. Can't imagine multiplying that many times over. Calculating drop is one thing but man-oh-man how many things could effect windage. Not to mention is the target moving, does he keep moving constant, does he stop, or change directions.

Not taking away a THING from the shooter but WOW, WOW, WOW....

I guess at that range the nice part is you don't have to worry too much at returning fire. May Bless our Snipers and let them strike the kind of fear that drones can only dream to grow up to be.


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I wonder what his 5 shot group looks like? Better yet, I wonder what 5 ISIS lined up would look like!


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Heard some interesting commentary on the radio tonight (NPR). According to their guest, member of Canadian Parliament, there is some ruffled feathers over all this. Apparently Trudeau had promised that Canada was strictly their in a 'non-combat' role and this action has crossed some lines. Be a shame if a successful program ended up getting killed by politics.

Sound's like liberal Canada doesn't appreciate a righteous kill as much as Americans do...they haven't even evolved to arguing about if it was a lucky shot, if the shooter was using a mil-quad, 6x, fixed fugher or any of the important stuff!


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Mathman: I follow you!
But am not smart enough to do it.
Could you do it and solve this "time of flight" question/conjecture for us to to 2.14 miles?
Thanks anyway for your common sense suggestion.
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TOF was listed as 10 seconds.


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#Expert Analysis

The Canadian snipers had carefully chosen their hide site. From an elevated position, the Special Operations sniper looked through his scope at a stationary human target leaning against a cement wall over two miles away. The four-man sniper team had been pushing their shots out further and further into Mosul over the course of several days, taking down ISIS terrorists in long-range engagements. Now, they were about to make history.

Three Canadian sniper detachments have been active in Mosul, Iraq. Two of those sniper detachments hail from Canadian Special Operations Regiment (CSOR) and one from Joint Task Force 2 (JTF2), both units falling under Canadian Special Operations Forces Command (CANSOFCOM). CSOR handles tasks commonly associated with American units such as Special Forces and Rangers while JTF2 is Canada’s counter-terrorism unit, filling a role similar to Delta Force. That CSOR is in Kurdistan conducting an advise and assist mission is public knowledge. JTF2 was accidentally exposed in theater by a video released in 2015. What the Trudeau administration doesn’t want people to know is that Canadian troops are actively involved in combat. Like many other western governments, the advise and assist mission is used as a politically neutral term to disguise what is really happening on the ground.

The record-breaking shot was taken by the JTF2 sniper team nearly a month ago, but is just being publicized now, largely because the Canadian military is proud of what their men have accomplished despite what hand wringing politicians might think. Let’s get one thing straight, the record-breaking shot was not at a distance of 3,450 meters as the press has reported, but 90 meters further at a range of 3,540 meters. This smashes the previous record-setting distance for a sniper kill which was 2,475 meters held by British sniper Craig Harrison.

Canadian snipers are known to be amongst the best in the world and the JTF2 sniper detachment had been training for ultra-long range engagements prior to their deployment in preparation for Mosul. From their sniper hide, a number of factors lined up making the record-breaking shot possible. Using Kestral wind meters and ballistic software, the guess-work has been removed from ballistics. This truly makes sniping a science, as successful shots are based on math. On this particular day, there was little wind and no mirage. Through their scope, the sniper and spotter saw the target remaining still long enough for them to hit from 3,540 meters away.

The McMillan Tac-50 was hardly a new rifle, but would do the job. The round fired was a match grade armor-piercing incendiary (API) round. JTF2 mostly utilizes Schmidt and Bender scopes, but also some made by Night Force. Which optic used that day remains unknown at this time. The rifle had been customized in order to gain the mil elevation needed to reach a target at such great distances by attaching special rails to the weapon. The adjustments dialed into the scope by the JTF2 sniper were 113 mils of elevation and 6.5 mils of windage. To learn more about the mil-dot system and how snipers use it to adjust for distance and wind, take a look at the following website.

The JTF2 sniper fired, and the target went down, felled by a .50 caliber bullet from over two miles away. The episode was actually recorded by a Predator drone circling overhead. SOFREP has also seen confirmation of the shot from CANSOFCOM.

Minutes later, the same sniper/spotter team noticed a group of three ISIS terrorists standing close to each other at about 3,200 meters away. It would have been another record-breaking shot. The sniper fired at the group and all three hit the ground. One shot, three kills? Unfortunately not this time, the three terrorists sprung up and ran away. The bullet most likely passed right in between them. For the Canadian hunter/killer team it was still an amazing day. Chalking up a record-breaking sniper kill is one thing, having video evidence of it puts the shot into a whole other league.


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