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Broke through a fence and attacked 2 children in a minivan strapped in their car seats. Sounds like the boy pretty much got his face chewed off.

They should be outlawed except for specialty tasks and owners who are properly licensed to do so. Everybody else should be off limits.

Nobody would be allowed to own a wild animal in their back yard that could kill people in a normal neighborhood. These things are no different in my mind. When was the last time you walked down a street and watched a snarling bear, wolf, or lion on the other side of a fenced in yard?

http://fox43.com/2017/06/20/two-children-hospitalized-after-dog-attacked-them-in-lancaster/

Those infernal bassets, again.

Kill 'em all !!

Neil

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-authorities-say/?utm_term=.e0711f991f14

Then there is this one. It never ends and people never learn. Every pit bull owner insists to the end all pitt bulls especially there own are harmless balls of fluff and if you are attacked you deserved it. The best medicine for them is a .45

Outlaw all dogs, people should only own cats.

I do believe folks would take their canine pal selection a bit more seriously if they knew that they would be criminally responsible for said dog's behavior. By that, I mean that whatever the dog does IS as if the registered owner (in the case of fighting breeds) did it, up to and including murder. This BS needs to stop.

I'm not one for regulating everything and having the government in people's business, but the primary responsibility of even a limited government is enacting laws for the protection and good of its citizens.

We don't allow by law a 9 yr old to drive a vehicle down an interstate. Why? Because they are behind the wheel of something that will maim and kill people, and at that age even though they have the coordination and ability to drive, they cannot grasp or understand the responsibility and consequences of what can happen with a vehicle.

Pit Bulls are the same way....owners who treat them just as dogs like they are dealing with the family lab, who are not very good dog handlers to begin with, and cannot recognize dangers, same as a 9 yr old. Laws need to be passed that make it unlawful for the average person to own something like this. They've proven again and again and again, they are not a normal dog.

I'd like to see a knock-down, drag-out match between the moslems and the pitbulls for who is the most peaceful.

There should be more consequences for dog owners.

police K9 attacks LEO should have shot the fckr right there and then, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd9LV9qrnos

Possibly. Don't know the whole story....if it was mistaken identity in close quarters, then it was a mistake. If the dog lost it and turned and attacked for no reason, then yes, I would have no problem doing what I've done before with some dogs that needed it. Never, ever, ever, is a dogs life even a consideration compared to a human. If I have a dog that snarls or bites at somebody unprovoked and for no reason, then they better enjoy the short walk that is about to happen in the next few minutes. Nevermind breaking out of their area and going "hunting" for an innocent victim to attack like in the original news story posted. Your example is hardly a comparison to unprovoked attacks again and again and again by pit bulls. In some cases attacking their own owners who were just hanging out with them at the time. And the victims of such attacks don't just walk away holding their bitten hand.

I'll bet that in every instance, someone either had his finger on the trigger or had been messing with the settings on the trigger.

Shouldn't need saying, but dogs of every breed occasionally go "bad" and do something shocking like this, yet don't make headlines. Main factor determining whether or not it makes headlines is the extent of harm done. Pitbulls happen to be at the top of the list for capacity for harm, in the rare cases to do "bad" things. I put "bad" in quotes because it implies a capacity to make moral decisions, and dogs don't really have that ... not really.

Get rid of Ptibulls tomorrow, however, and the next most capable breed will take its place in these sorts of headlines. Eventually, should we choose to walk down that path, our laws will give us a choice between a Lab and Golden.

OK

Bullcrap. There are enough statistics to back up eradicating certain large dogs and sending their owners to the electric chair.

A man should get the death penalty for:

Driving under the influence
Texting whilst driving
Owning a dangerous animal breed that attacks a person
A firearm mishap in the hands of a child
Sexual Abuse

Sounds like you chose the right screen name for yourself.

Liberal

They definitely have a few screws lose.

Exactly.......it's very liberal of you to ask .gov to protect you from all those scary issues.

Yet that same gooberment in much of the USA, won't let a person carry a weapon to protect themselves from just such an attack.

I'm still reeling over learning that a 9 year old is capable of interstate driving.

A friend of mine had his hand chomped while trying to save his Jack Russell from a pit bull. The pet died anyway and Tom spent a week in hospital, no hope of getting full use of his hand back. A month later he now carries a pistol whenever he is working outside. The pit bull (next door) wasn't even put down, and the owner has yet to even apologize. Pretty sad if you ask me. Am I prejudiced against those dogs? You damn betcha.

If we could legally walk down the street and eliminate every pit bull that looked at us funny or charged a fence, to save any future kids, then there would be no need for any farther action. Until then they need to either pass a law making them illegal for most people to own, or else hold the owners directly responsible for any maiming's or killings, same as if they had done the dastardly deed themselves. Do that and nobody would want to own them, and the few that did would make sure they were kept under lock and key with no ability to ever harm anyone but the caretakers themselves. If that was my 2 kids that had gotten their faces chewed off while strapped in their car seats, there wouldn't be a law on the books, or the punishment for breaking any of those laws, strong enough to protect any I'd run across.

So.......if it saves just one child! Got it.

Around 'here', if a dog poses an imminent threat and you deal with THAT dog
..... good-to-go. Not sure I'm okay with breaking out a blaster every time a dog "looks at you funny".

Of course I don't really fret dogs much. Respect, yes..... worry, no.

If I were him, I'd give Alan Dershowitz a call.

When 1 "breed" of dog is known to be routinely responsible for horrible attacks and deaths involving children, YES. I'd shoot every one of them twice if I knew it would save just one child, and be glad I done the world a favor.

Nice to know you don't "fret" about it. Of course all children come armed ready and able to fully defend themselves. That's very brave of you.

So, after you exterminate pits, is my beloved GSD breed next on the hot list or will you go after Mals first?

Schutheads who want [bleep] dogs will have them regardless of breed..........and I have no [bleep] use for pits, personally. You can get emotional, but it's pointless.

It's not about emotion. It's about statistics and facts. Those statistics and facts prove out that by far, among dangerous dogs, pit bulls are prone to unprovoked attack children. There's been documentaries produced about this 20 yrs ago already. Call it raw prey drive that young high voiced children excite in that breed of dog, or whatever, I'm not sure we fully know why. It's also without question that an attack by a pit bull is far more likely to result in horrific maiming or death than the fairly common amount of dog bites that happen with a whole host of other breeds every yr.

They are a different animal. Not in any way, shape or form, a normal dog. I would think you of all people would be able to recognize that given your screen name.

............and, thus, statistically once you (theoretically) eliminate pits the "sub-caste" that in the present time emulates them will move on to another "dangerous breed". Right now, Mals are "en Vogue", so let's go that route. Soon, the Mal will be bred and 'trained' (lack thereof) and statistics will show them to be child-sitting. I certainly wouldn't classify a Mal as "normal" on their best day, so there's that as well.

my first thought

In my experience about 80% of the people that own any type of dog should not even own a dog.

Maybe, maybe not. I couldn't predict that. We would have to wait and see if another breed of dog had a 30 yr documented reputation for being in the news on a regular basis maiming and killing children, as well as adults. Like you said in an earlier post, you deal with the imminent threat once you run across it. Dangerous dogs dictate that there is an inherent danger that comes with them. That is mostly due to their bite strength, size, and what they're bred for. But that just means the possibility exists and people need to be aware of that, it doesn't mean as a breed they are prone to do so. With pit bulls we've moved past the mere "possibility" of that danger decades ago, they've proven to have something in their DNA that promotes often unexplained attacks, again and again in the news. Even when it is explained, the inability to get those dogs out of their locked down "kill" mentality by their owners or anybody else once an attack occurs, is also well known and documented.

My Chiweenie was recently attacked and badly injured by a pit bull while I was walking her down the sidewalk on my street. Mine was on a leash, the pit didn't even have a collar on. The owner claims the collar broke when his dog lunged against the chain it was on. I'm currently out about $3000.00 and looking at $4500 to $6000 more to fix her leg. The owner rents and has no renters insurance. Our county requires $100,000. Liability insurance to own a pit. Animal control took 2 weeks just to show up, and has done nothing. Not even a fine. Ask me how I feel about pitbulls. Please.

Schit dog.........schittier owner!

Most guys I know carry a handgun in case they meet a criminal.
I carry a handgun in case I meet a pit bull again.
I was ripped up by a pit bull 52 years ago, and I am ready for a rematch.

I've never had or really wanted a concealed carry permit. Florida does not allow open carry unless you're fishing, hunting or possibly hiking in the woods.i now carry a sheet metal hammer when taking her out. As far as I know, open carry of hammers is legal

You better swing hard between the eyes and mean to bash the skull and kill on the first swing. When dealing with a pit your very life could depend on it. Most dogs are all bluff and will never cross the line of a full out attack. Those that do 98% of them if you can stay on your feet, then get a couple of good hoofs to the chest or guts while screaming at them it will quickly make them re-think their strategy, I don't care how big they are, when push comes to shove they lack the grit to stay with it. Pitt's seem to lack an on/off switch once making a decision to attack. Once in attack mode those kicks would mean no more to them than the latest gnat they bit off their leg. They will ignore pain and the inherent self preservation gene that is in just about any dog, seems to be completely lacking with them when they jump on someone. It's what makes them so dangerous in my view....not only can't you trust them, and they have enough bite force to do serious damage, but you cannot get the demon possessed spawns of Satan to stop. Again, darn near 30 yrs of documented cases now in the U.S. alone, verify that. They are NOT a normal dog.

knife is probably a much better option.

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http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Woman-Uses-Filet-Knife-Fatally-Stab-Pit-Bulls-260490201.html

I know that I couldn't hurt it much by kicking. I landed 3 good kicks, and 1 not so good one. Hardly phased it. And I'm 6'4" and about 210 lbs. If I see it off leash and all alone, I have a .22 hornet propped up by the front door.

Pit Bulls just go crazy when in attach mode. You never know when they will attack, just that they will sooner or later.

Hey, I've done my part over the years, I've killed so many dangerous dogs, I probably need a recipe.

Dopers and unresponsible people are to fault.

I have killed exactly one Pitbull. Used a 257 Roberts with a 120 gr Nosler Partition. Actually I used a couple of the Partitions one put him down and the second one was to make sure he stayed down. I've seen coyotes put up a bigger fuss...

I firmly believe that dog had attacked a Seeing Eye dog and I know that it killed at least one of my barn cats.

Hey I don't like doing it but I've been attacked by "friendly" dogs while trying to carry firewood into the house. Thats how dang bad it is in some places.

Mistaken identity or the dog just lost ,..yes well the only way to really know is to ask the dog or read its mind.
For all we know the K9 could in another circumstance have mangled a young childs arm or ripped its face by
mistake....thankfully K9 only mauled another LEO on this occasion.



A dog attack is a dog attack I don't care if it a g-shepherd, labrador or pitbull.
people who have lost children to other breeds don't console themselves on that fact it wasn't a PB.

As a jogger i am attacked by dogs frequently. Last night it was a [bleep] and the problem was chasing it away without hurting it. I chose a rock. The pit bull up the street charged and i pepper sprayed it. Next time out he left me alone. But if he gets aggressive again it will be a dirt nap.for him. All dogs should be leashed in my opinion as they are aggressive and territorial. And definitely owners should be held responsible for every action by their pet. I could fill a book with all the pit bull attacks i know about. I would never associate with a pit bull owner....

With the first paragraph of your quote you just showed your hand on a public forum that you know diddly squat about dogs. I said we don't know the whole story, it could've been mistaken identity in close quarters. As usual on the internet, people weigh in on issues like they know what they're talking about, with obvious zero experience to back it up.

Dogs that are amped up in the middle of a fight, be it on another animal, or in this case possibly a human, will reactionary bite if you do things wrong. I've had teeth put on me by my own dogs in these kinds of situations, it's a mistake. The dog didn't mean it. My fault when it happened. Not to mention another officer that the dog doesn't know, possibly reaching in there or grappling with a suspect. We don't know, it doesn't say. That is 100% different than a dog that turns and attacks without cause. The only thing I gathered for sure about that story was this.... "The original call was for a man who possibly attacked his brother with a hammer." So chances are things were loud, messy, and chaotic.


I would venture to say I've worked with more dogs in my life than you or most people have looked at pictures of them. I can confidently say I've spent more hours working with dogs than most people have ever spent watching TV or randomly searching things on the internet unless they've never had a job. I grew up with no TV and from a young age on dogs became a hobby and passion. So if you're my age while you and your friends were watching TV and playing Asteroids or Artari, I was working with dogs. By my mid teens I had people twice my age dropping dogs off to be trained in either a hunting format or just plain obedience. Dogs, dogs, and more dogs of all kinds almost non stop for 35 yrs. When it got too hot in the summer to work dogs I'd work them at night. I'm fair to middln' at a lot of things, but working with dogs and figuring out problems with dogs is something I approach with full confidence that I'll figure out. You are not going to instruct me on dog behavior when it's obvious you lack first hand experience, so don't even freaking start. Go back to searching for dog videos on youtube.